Here again. :>) Interesting to see how the Computer Help forum has made such lasting impressions on the users, even though those impressions are varied. About Spike: I very much appreciated the way he ran the forums. They were his, and he had every right to make the rules; just as we made rules for our family. My first venture on the web shocked me when I saw the foul language that was used on different sites. Spike's rules included no profanity, and "no religious or political" comments, and yet some posters came up with these ridiculous ways to get around that. Remember pr@yers, and G@d? d@mn, and carp? So juvenile! As Bob said, being sent to Disney wasn't done on a first offense, but multiples could get you banned. I had no problem paying the $15 (and I believe at first it was only $10) and never understood why some others did. There were those who cried hard times and "just could not afford it." What? They could afford to buy a computer, and pay for the internet, and their cigs and Pepsies, but not for all the help they got here? Somewhere I have a picture of Spike and his wife, that was taken at a KT Gathering. It was posted and I copied it. Anyway, here are some of the things I found in my box of scratch paper. On one piece of paper was even part of an email to Ken about a problem I was having with Gmail. It is dated February 22, 2006, and has his email address. He wished me Good Luck! Check these out, if you are interested. I think they are all still good. http://www.vmirror.com/copyrght.html http://www.glyphs.com/forums/load/cafe/msg0911545711181.html http://www.vmirror.com/ http://www.e-zine-list.com/ezines/027/4029.shtml http://www.glyphs.com/forums/load/cafe/msg0911545711181.html Sue

Tell us which programs you used for your virus search please, you did update the definitions first of course. Do you run any other anti spyware/malware programs, if so which? Are you using IE6, IE7, Firefox or another browser? How come you have Norton on this machine? Was it on there when you purchased the computer and you have never taken it off? Have you ever had Google set as the home page on this computer?

If it is Sea Monkey browser, look up in the upper left corner ,and to the left of the Back arrow, File and Home buttons, are these little areas that have a downward pointing arrow head and a couple of rows of dots. Click on one of those to expand the tool bar. several times I have done that and closed my tool bars with out meaning to and have to click those areas to expand them.

I drove through a different area yesterday, for Nick's football game, near where my sister lives and where I used to live. I am not kidding, I probably could have counted a hundred for sale signs. Maybe even more. And that is the supposedly desirable area. This is the boonies. That's the problem - this area wasn't built up during the housing boom so there isn't excess inventory. What is on the market in my range are the unsellables - one bad location (next to the biggest 24 hour gas station in town, at the busiest intersection), one has a cesspool, one is a peeling Victorian (I don't want to deal with old peeling possibly lead paint with two young children). This is the type of area where people don't move in and out of very often, they just move around and no one is moving around since there is no place to move to. There really isn't a neighboring town south (there's a big mountain) and I don't really want to go any further north but even if I did - those towns have even less to offer.