I can't speak for Bosch because I don't have one but I would still investigate the Bosch especially since they have just released their new 2007 models. You will see them on their web site, but perhaps not in the store yet. I bet it can clean pans without you tilting them on any angle. I have a Miele without a food grinder and have had them going on 11 years without a grinder. This lack of grinder is not really a big deal unless you are going to use your dishwasher like a garbage disposer and even the models with a grinder tell you to scrape the dishes before putting them in the DW. Also I think there is an LG Model that has a soak feature which seems good for pans but I don't know the price range. Also appliance store people really don't know that much sometimes so it is best to do your own investigation...order some brochures from the makers. Another thing to do is go to the bosch and LG and any other makers web site and download the owners manual...you can get a lot of information about what you are going to run into by reading the owners manual before you purchase the product.

Thank you for all of the input. I had a feeling that it was chatter and a problem with the drum sander. He had a large machine... 5 hp motor and all of his equipment looked professional. My guess was that the drum sander was the problem. I noticed durinh his sanding that there was quite a bit of vibration and I was worried about all of the repair work I did to my plaster walls and ceilings. I appreciate your suggestions and I thought about having another person look at the floors. The way I feel right now, I love the look of the wood compared to the old carpet and I am fine leaving the floors the way they are. However, I am not fine with paying in full. I could agree to paying him a few more dollars but I don't know. If he calls, I will make the comment about chatter... I already mentioned it once. He should there is a problem with his machine. The whole reason I did not do the job myself was to get a perfect job performed by a pro. I could have done what he did, and paying him $550 is about right considering that. My sister said that I should negpotiate a final price to pay and that any further work is beyond his ability level. In the future, I will do more research, I normally do, but I was hasty. Thanks again, and I would be interested in more advice and opinions. Thanks

ricewO, I had found someone from Angie's list on July 4th that sounded great but he had to be booked in advance and could not buy the BR-111 product at the same great price as from TrueHardwoods.com so told me to buy it and call him and he would see when he had time. He wanted me to order one extra box but he said if I was going to be picky on boards, then two extra boxes. I had ordered 8% extra and he felt that was not enough (he was right I see now). When I called him to tell him I think I made a mistake with the order and I should have ordered 2 T-Moldings and 2 Reducers and not 3 Reducers and no T-Moldings, he told me I needed 4 Reducers and 1 T-Molding. He was too far from me to do a quick stop over here to measure again. My current installer before hiring him, came by and pulled up the carpet to test which molding he brought with was the right one and also bought me a white foam pad with a big board to stand on (pulled the rug and padding up so the wood and pad would be on the cement floor)to let me make a decision on if I liked the feeling of a glued down floor or a floating floor. That is when I decided that I did not want 3 extra boxes of wood like my neighbor who ordered a different product from TrueHardwoods.com so I went with my current installer and also my current was able to begin right away. BUT I see now that I was wrong and my current is not doing a good job and I am afraid for him to cut new molding to install since all his cut boards are poorly done with various size spaces next to my wall. Also the installation itself was done wrong and I had to call the manufacturer of the FloorMuffler with Ultra Seal and put them on Speaker phone since the current installer did not believe the instructions and was not using the ULTRAseal tape (he had it tucked under the pad!) at all and was not gluing the pieces together and was not putting the pad up against the wall a bit. The manufacturer said to insulate and protect from moisture he was doing it wrong and I was right. Then my current installer did it right in front of me and then when I left the room and came back I saw he was doing it wrong again! He installed damaged boards and some of the boards are not enough distance form each other with the seams. I am unhappy with his installation but very happy now with the beautiful Brazilian Cherry floors and so glad I went with the 5" wide boards since the grain is gorgeous and the coloring is now the orange reddish color I felt it should be when first installed despite not looking like that in the box. I really would like someone to install the last row of boards when the new box comes in and cut the new baseboard trim to install it so the cuts and piecing together can be professional. If I have no one else, I would have to have the current installer complete the installation of the wood with me there the whole time since I do not trust him anymore. I almost did not hire the current installer when he did not return my phone calls when I found the 47 foot crack in the cement floor but he arrived Thursday morning without return my phone calls the prior night or the prior days and I wanted the floor done. He also ripped out two side corner moldings near my tiles (my brother took the molding off the walls everywhere else and did a good job) and metal is showing and he cracked two tiles. He installed the two T-Moldings and you can see nail heads and he scratched the molding and a tiny crack now from putting the nail in the molding. Now I see why he wanted to reuse the old trim since I do not feel his carpenter skills are that good. He was referred by a client of mine that used to sell the current installer insurance before he retired from the insurance business. I had a painter come in today to give me an estimate on just painting the walls and not the trim. I have another painter coming by at 2 PM to give me an estimate also. Thank you ricewO for the suggestion of Angie's list. I may call back the other installer as well as all the messages I left last night on Angie's list's carpenters, flooring installers and painters. Thank you for your nice offer. I wish you lived near me.

Hi Kammerek, I've seen this topic covered here in the past. It seems that most people on this forum prefer to put the floor in first. We are not doing it that way - and it seems that all the contractors we talked with prefer to do the floor later. Maybe it depends on the type of flooring. We're getting engineered (prefinished) hardwood. The floor people came in and installed new 1/2" plywood subflooring before the cabinets were put in. Then came cabinets,appliances that are inside of cabinets, light fixtures, countertops, backplash and then flooring. After the flooring they'll put in the appliances that sit on the floor (fridge and dishwasher). The reason it's done this way is to protect the floor. Our granite is being installed today, and they granite guys were so happy that they didn't have to worry about the floor when they brought in the large island slab with a heavy-duty dolly. Tomorrow, when they do the backsplash, the tile guy will set up a wet saw outside; and will go back and forth cutting tile, bringing in mastic, grount, etc... It's nice to not worry about damaging the floor before the kitchen is finished. I guess it you're doing site-finished floors and you plan to put another coat on them, it doesn't matter as much. you can always cover the floor and try to protect it, but if the floor isn't there yet, you know it won't get dented or scratched. Just another view...