Under cabinet wiring -- small junction box
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The wires don't appreciate me! (Box too small)
Comments (6)Hey brick, nice to see you over here and thanks for the great advice. I had gotten a plaster ring so it was good to know I was on the right track. It seemed to me to make sense to enlarge the box, but I always wonder if a pro would hit me over the head with linesman's pliers and call me a dufus every time I try to "innovate" like that! yes, I know when in doubt call a pro, but for a switch replacement I really wanted to go it on my own. I'm still working on those NEC tables; I found one online with a free one-day trial so I'm going to wait until I open up another problematic box and look everything up at once while I've got the free trial. Bus driver, thanks for the tip about the wire mold. Since I got the bigger box in I'll stick with that, but it's nice to know it exists. Another one for the bag of tricks. I did not appreciate running into this problem at all; the power to the circuit had to be left off for hours while I ran around getting more boxes and tools. If I were a pro working on a fixed-price job, I'd be cheesed at losing money because something took so much longer than expected. On the other hand a pro would be prepared for the contingency and it would have gone from a 15 minute job to a 30 minute job. For me, it went from minutes to hours. But I'm sure it's not the last time I run into this problem, so I'm glad I've got it figured out. Thanks all, great forum. Really liked the thread about the guy running power out to his shed--now THAT is definitely a job I would not tackle on my own. But I am going to look at how the power is run out to my garage. I bet it was a hack job and will need to be replaced. We are slowly replacing a lot of the wiring in this old house. (Don't even ask me about how the attic fan was wired, scary!) But at least we had no K&T. And we've got arc faults on all the bedroom circuits, so I sleep a little better at night....See MoreUnder cabinet lighting junction box
Comments (1)Youll be fine....See Morejunction box blocked by vanity cabinet
Comments (9)"That is, in fact, almost precisely what the code says at 314.29. Later, I think in relation to metal boxes, it says, at 314.72 (D): "Boxes shall be installed so that the wiring is accessible without removing any part of the building..." There's no mention of "finished surfaces" although, in practice I would assume it's the same thing. I do appreciate your expertise, but I CAN read. If I'm reading out of context, that would be helpful to know. Thanks." The NEC is lik any other legal document when it is adopted. Words have their 'normal' meaning UNLESS they are otherwise defined. The NEC defines what 'accessible' means rather explicitly in Article 100, Definitions....See MoreReplace ceiling light junction box with fan junction box
Comments (7)First cut power to the ceiling box so you have no live wires. Then use a pliers to pull on each side of the box and figure out which side has the nail into a joist.. Use a reciprocating saw to cut right next to the outside of that side of the box and cut the nail off that is holding it (cut out just enough sheetrock for the blade to fit). Pull the box down and disconnect the wiring. Remove the wiring plugs on the side of the new box and insert the power wires into the box. Install the new box using the manufacturers instructions and tighten in place. It is adjustable so it can slide and be installed anywhere along the bracket, and you should be able to install it right next to the joist, or within about 1/2" of the original box installation. This may require slight cutting of sheetrock again. Use minimally expanding foam or putty to fill in the area around the box and seal it to the ceiling to prevent air infiltration from the attic. Wire up the new fan, which will have a base that is large enough cover the small areas you cut around the old box. Bruce...See More- 11 years ago
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