Purchasing a house near power lines?
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Disfiguring of trees near power lines
Comments (10)creekweb: Where do I begin? A little background. Power came to our county in the late 40's and early 50's of this past century. In order to get the power to the most people the fastest and cheapest, the lines were run by the most direct route possible. In many cases this meant cross-lots through farm fields and forests and up and over hills, as well as along county rights of way. Back in those days, linemen were 'real men', hauling their supplies and strapping on their climbing spurs without benefit of bucket trucks. Things have changed, and that earlier decision by the electric company has come back to bite them. They are in the long term process of moving lines to where they should have been in the first place at great expense in both money and trees. I bought my place 27 years ago, and at that time there was no house on the property. The power lines enter at right angles to the north boundary and exit at a 45% angle at the south boundary. They are roughly 50-75' inside my line from the county r.o.w. The Middle Tennessee Electric Membership Corporation claims a 40' r.o.w. granted them by state law-even back then deep pockets bought legislators. This r.o.w. takes almost an acre out of use. Of course I knew about the r.o.w. when I bought, I just didn't know greedy MTEMC was. When I applied for electric service I had to sign an easement giving them the right to keep their equipment on my property and access 24/7. Just for laughs I asked them what if I refused the easement. They said they would move their lines off the property and refuse to sell me electricity. Fast forward 4 years ago. MTEMC begins an aggressive 4 year tree 'pruning' cycle. An advance man is sent to mark trees, green for 'prune', red for remove. He advises property owners what is to be done. I look at my trees and see many marked 'green' that are well beyond the 20' center of the r.o.w. None are marked 'red'. I send MTEMC a firm but courteous email denying them access to my property until I meet personally with their tree man on my property. A meeting is arranged. I meet the tree man at the r.o.w. and the first words out of his mouth as he looks around are, "you probably know more about trees than I do". He then states his position, the law etc. I state mine, law or no, 40 feet is ENTIRELY too much. He restates. I counter with the fact that most trees are taller than the width of the r.o.w., and if they were to fall it wouldn't matter unless they cleared a swath 150' wide. He persists. I state that what they are doing is pure butchery. The workers know how to operate a bucket and chain saw and nothing else. They make improper cuts that threaten the future of the tree, not to mention stimulate growth that will need to be pruned all the sooner. HE CONCEDES. We discuss storms, prevailing winds etc. In the end, he agrees to 10' from center of r.o.w. and I GET TO DIRECT THE TRIMMERS. When the tree crew arrives all goes well. It's been 4 years and the trimmers are back. Nothing has been marked yet on my place. Trees previously pruned (at my direction) have grown some, but nothing drastic. I believe the same guy is still the tree man. I fully expect a repeat of 4 years ago. Now if you are still reading lol. I completely understand the need to keep the juice flowing. We all depend on it. I just cannot agree with the way they go about tree pruning. Whether or not you are able to get your trees trimmed to your and the electric companies satisfaction is anyone's guess. In Nashville, when Nashville Electric is trimming, there is usually stories on the local news about outraged citizens decrying the butchering of their trees. One area, a place of old trees, old houses (mansions) and old money yells the loudest. It does them no good, the trees are pruned to NES's specs. And NES does not cut a 40' r.o.w., to me they prune very conservatively. The good thing is by and large NES follows proper pruning practices, unlike MTEMC. Toronado 3800: I certainly agree the power needs to be kept on. The power companies seem to have a handle on the tree issue. Now they need to address: blizzards ice storms tornadoes hurricanes straight line winds haboobs earthquakes volcanoes floods landslides tsunamis CME's errant vehicles equipment failure human error excessive heat excessive cold hunters errant wildlife vandals terrorists deteriorating infrastructure I'm being sarcastic, but only slightly so lol. Around here, more power outages are caused by things other than trees. ilovemytrees: I love my trees too, and everybody elses lol. Ken...See Morehigh voltage power lines
Comments (14)Okay - thanks for the info so far. These power lines have the enormous poles but not towers. They're not in the yard of this home but adjacent to it and across the cul de sac - so they're close. However they'd pretty much only be in my view when I come and go from the house. When I'm looking out the windows of my house I'm looking at a gorgeous 1+ acre wooded lot with a stream running through the back of it. When I'm in my backyard or on my deck - same gorgeous view and complete privacy. The home was designed to take advantage of the beautiful views and not the view of the lines & poles. So far there is nothing else similar - home of this quality, lot of this size and privacy, in this close in location where I want to be. If there was a comparable place I'd certainly choose it over one with the power lines but so far there isn't. I've read the info on cancer risks, etc. and like I said, there is no valid scientific evidence of that. I've got quite a bit of experience evaluating that kind of thing so I'm not the type to believe everything I google. Plus I had cancer twice before I lived by high voltage power lines and I never had it again after I lived by them so what does that tell you. Back to my questions: What % of people do you think would/would not buy in this location? What do you think the % impact is on the price of a newer home in an area of custom built homes on nice one acre lots? Thanks again!!...See MoreLiving near power lines - how close is too close?
Comments (62)Skimming here there are some things to think about The eye sore part: -You can barely see the towers now so there must be some current trees between the house and the towers --but what if something happens to the trees? Disease, more development, the power people feeling the need to cut them down *I would definately try to get a handle on whether there is going to be more development between the house and the power lines -Will winter affect being able to see the towers? -Someone mentioned upgrading - you might want to call the electric company and get an idea of whether they will be upgrading - although it will be hard to find any office or employee that has a clue, you will have to have patience and persistance The risk thing - hard to know. When I was younger I used to worship at sciences feet. As I've gotten older I find scientists tend to be arrogant and absolute. When new findings throw out previous findings which is the nature of science, they don't even blink. They just tout the new findings as the now absolute last word with the same arrogance. I try to do research with information from all sides and apply some common sense and gut feeling. You have to do what feels right for you and don't let anyone make you feel bad for it. Resale - Given a choice I would prefer not to be near power lines. That is of course getting harder to do. You need to really evaluate the bigger picture of the areas people "like you" are looking at. Sounds like schools etc. are important. How many "good" neighborhoods in your price range are affected by a negative (hwy, power lines etc.) Do people have choices? Lkplatow comments: madmartian - I'm in surburban Philadelphia -- close enough to NJ to have the same problems I guess. Too much development, not enough land.... Really the elephant in the room everyone is ignorning is population growth. Although of course I realize a lot of people with chime in with population moving around - growth (whereever it happens) still is a bottom line problem....See MorePower line issues?
Comments (18)What they said. If they are distribution lines, it's really not an issue. Newer developments do bury them, but from a safety perspective, it's exactly the same. If it bothers you aesthetically, that's something to consider--but definitely know that in most cities and older suburbs, every house has these somewhere nearby (often much, much closer than 150-200 feet). (If you do determine they are transmission lines vs. distribution lines--e.g., medium voltage vs. low voltage--that might change things. The power company should be able to give you this information.)...See Morenewgardenelf
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