Tankless water heater in attic?
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service from BOTH old water heater and tankless water heater ?
Comments (4)We don't want to shut off the water when the remodel to the room is finished. We just want to switch the water source . For example after finishing the hall bath, can water coming from the water heater in the attic be switched via the remodel process to the new tankless water heater that will not be in the attic? But still will need the old water heater for rooms not yet remodeled and whose plumbing hasn't been upgraded to copper,etc. Can both water heaters be running at same time? For example keeping the master bath and the kitchen still using the water heater in the attic because plumbing will not be complete yet that routes them to tankless. So we will have both tankless not in the attic and the old water heater in the attic working at the same time but just servicing different rooms. Can we do that? I didn't specify since I'm not a plumber but I can't help thinking that main issue is that you need gas going to both water heaters and water from the outside being routed into both water heaters. Not sure if this is possible to do. Then after 6 months or a year when all rooms are remodeled and have their galvanized pipes replaced with copper, etc. and have plumbing routed to new location of tankless, the old water heater in the attic can be shut down because it won't be used....See MoreTankless Water Heater: GPM and Incoming Water Temp Questions
Comments (4)I'm a bit late to respond but I'll give you my input on how our Noritz M-084M is working in Sammamish (Seattle area), which is to say, great! The 8.4 GPM is for a 45 deg temp rise, the lower 5 or 6 GPM is for a higher temp rise needed in Winter. You can find the charts on the Noritz website. I have our unit set to 120 deg and it works well at that setting. Our kitchen is the farthest from the unit, which I installed in the garage attic, and with the temp set at 120 I run the faucet on full hot when doing hand washing of dishes and this is just fine. I find the unit actually works better with COLDER incoming water temp. In the summer the temperature at the kitchen seems to be lower for some reason. The highest load we put on the unit is running two showers at once, which we do on the weekend. It has absolutely no problem keeping up and the water temp stays nice and constant. Our unit is rated at 0.75 GPM to activate, and there is no problem at all to get it running with a bath faucet. Newer units are 0.50 or below. And once it's running it seems like you can turn it down below the 0.75 GPM rate and still get hot water. Go too low though and it will shut off and you'll get the dreaded slug of cold water. This happens very infrequently and has not been any problem. If you haven't purchased a unit and would like to see our installation, drop me an email. I have some pictures or you could come out and take a look in person. Tom...See MoreTank Water Heater vs. Tankless Water Heater
Comments (4)Guys if you read the post, the reason the tank water heater was so expensive was due to the construction required to get his house up to code. I personally like my tank heater. If your changing from a tank to tankless there is alot of work to do. Moving water lines, moving gas lines (possibly upgrading gas line size too) and running a new intake/exhaust if using gas, upgrading the main service amps if using electric. Some things to consider Tank Heater Pros Costs less to replace in the future Easier to maintain (Tank water heaters are easy to flush out every year) Easier to install (dont have to upgrade gas line or main service amps) Gas water heater will still operate in power outage (electric will still have some hot water to use for a while till power kicks back on). Cons Not as efficient as tankless No Tax Credits Hot water limited by FHR (first hour rating) Tankless Heater Pros Unlimited hot water More efficient Saves space Cons Will cost more in the future to replace (there is no guarantee the tankless will last longer than a tank version, the heat exchanger can go bad and that is the most expensive part of the tankless) , Harder to maintain (you need to try to clean those tankless heaters out every year with a descaler so they stay working efficiently) Harder to install (upgrade gas line or main service amps) Tankless heaters have a limited throughoutput. While it is unlimited hot water, it can only supply so many gallons of hot water at a time Will not operate in a power outage. A tankless water heater is controlled by electronics whether the heater is gas or electric does not matter. Requires minimum gallons per minute from city water supply, some people have not been able to install due to that problem. Consumer reports note that users complain of inconsistant water temperatures. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/appliances/heating-cooling-and-air/water-heaters/tankless-water-heaters/overview/tankless-water-heaters-ov.htm Another good site to look at: http://www.waterheaterrescue.com/pages/WHRpages/English/Longevity/tankless-water-heaters.html...See MoreTankless or Hybrid Tankless Water Heater – Discharge Pipe/Drain Requir
Comments (9)I understand. People who have had this problem - esp when the heater is on the main floor (rather than the basement) -- are often very paranoid about a recurrence. I've installed Rheem tankless units in my last couple of homes and have been very happy with the brand. You should understand that a gas tankless heater will be expensive to retrofit. They may have to run larger gas line and will have to install a new flue (as well as an electrical outlet.) Again, keep in mind the Rheem Marathon fiberglass tank water heaters. They only come in standard electric - but could be an alternative to a gas tankless. To answer your question about the drain - a condensing gas tankless requires a drain. It is my understanding of code that a water heater T&P valve must be able to discharge without causing significant damage - and thus a drain is always required, regardless of the type of heater. I assume you are grandfathered or have some way around this provision - so I won't argue that point....See Morethull
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