Glyphosate toxicity Glyphosate has a United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Toxicity Class of III (on a I to IV scale, where IV is least dangerous) for oral and inhalation exposure.[46] Nonetheless, as with other herbicides, the EPA requires that products containing glyphosate carry a label that warns against oral intake, mandates the use of protective clothing, and instructs users not to re-enter treated fields for at least 4 hours.[46][47] Glyphosate does not bioaccumulate and breaks down rapidly in the environment.[48] Human The EPA considers glyphosate to be noncarcinogenic and relatively low in toxicity.[46] The EPA considered a "worst case" dietary risk model of an individual eating a lifetime of food derived entirely from glyphosate-sprayed fields with residues at their maximum levels. This model indicated that no adverse health effects would be expected under such conditions.[46] Effects on fish and amphibians Glyphosate is generally less persistent in water than in soil, with 12 to 60 day persistence observed in Canadian pond water, yet because glyphosate binds to soil, persistence of over a year have been observed in the sediments of ponds in Michigan and Oregon.[46] In streams, maximum glyphosate concentrations were measured immediately post-treatment and dissipated rapidly.[46] Glyphosate is "practically nontoxic to slightly toxic" for amphibians and fish.[49] Wikipedia again. Roundup (Glyphosate) is the least toxic herbicide in the world. This accounts for its widespread use and acceptance for use on food products by the EPA. It is an acid molecule that inhibits plant enzymes (not animal enzymes) and kills plants. In contact it binds with soil and and degrades. Unless you swallow it before it dries it is basically harmless to humans or pets. Organic herbicides would be limited to vinegar or practices such as mulching. All fine for small plot in your backyard, but impractical on a commercial farm. Here is a snippit from the Renegade Gardener that should be mandatory reading for those who rail against Roundup and demand the use of organic pesticides. "You chose glyphosate as your cause? FYI, the most commonly used pesticide in the ‘40s, ‘50s and ‘60s, copper sulfate, is far more toxic and still widely in use today in the US and around the world. Where? Organic farming. Copper pesticides are organic, understand, and approved for use today in the US, England (well, not for long) and many other countries. Each season, organic farmers spray it by the hundreds of thousands of gallons. It has an EIQ of 47.8! That’s off the charts!!" Roundup has an EIQ of 15.3 Here is a link that might be useful: Renegade Gardener on organic pesticides.

If any of you are on here anymore, it’s been three plus years in our new house and my husband and myself often say how ridiculously thankful we are that we (I) stumbled across this site and ended up (reluctantly) scrapping our original plans based solely on you all picking it apart. If you recall, our plans were done as were bids and we were simply waiting for spring to come so we could dig, I thought you all would have minor suggestions for us, boy was I wrong. The thought of going back to the drawing board, going back through the drafting process and making our contractors rebid was overwhelming but we are so thankful we did. I haven’t been on this site in a while but hope you all are still helping lots of folks, your knowledge was certainly invaluable, what a huge difference you all made in our world and I hope others are lucky enough to experience the same.

Hmmm,NOS vs latest and greatest? It's all about understanding what a product does and how it does it. There's no way anyone can understand everything the use daily. Miss vossy's heads up is worth considering when time come's to buy. On the other hand,I see what some are saying and will give examples that IMO old version is better than new version. Anything connected with left coast standards,12 valve Cummins Dodge trucks,(digging up bones here but) first few years production of low consumption toilets,E-gasoline,men's blue denim jeans and hand tools in general. Here's my favorite old vs new story because I made a bunch of money as a result. I was working for Sears Roebuck in the mid 70s when Browning Firearms opened a plant in Japan so they could compete with Remington and Winchester on priceing. When I walked into the surplus store and saw Brownings marked at half off,a tingle ran up my spine. I told the manager I wanted every one that was in the display. While writing them up and complying with legal requirments,the manager told me that others were in the stock room. I told him that I wanted to cancel the sale and instead put as many on lay-a-way as my credit union savings would cover. When I got home that night and told Miss Klementine I had spent our savings on guns,she hit the ceiling. Between the ATF contacting me,the district manager for Sears threating to fire me and Miss Klementine chewing on me,it was nip and tuck for a while. After Japanese production got up and running, Belgium Brownings soon tripled in value which gave me a value of aproximatly 7 times what I paid after employee discount off half price. Some I sold netted near 1,000% profit. Belgium built Browings are very valuable today. Miss Klementine gave ol klem a pat on the head and baked a cake when her claws receded and she returned to earth?

juneroses -- I should have posted earlier to thank you and tell you that the Rexulti arrived six days after being shipped. It evidently comes straight from Winnipeg. The tablets split just as well as the ones from our local pharmacy. I'm very grateful to have had your recommendation. The company employees have been efficient and pleasant to deal with. I hope you have escaped damage from Ian. IDK where everyone from the Midwest will go for the winter this year, with Napes and Sanibel is such a sorry state. I've always thought it so clique-y that Easterners choose the East coast, while Midwesterners choose the Gulf side. It will all come back...eventually. Vacationers' plans a big nothing compared to the tragedy for property owners, although the loss of trade will contribute to the financial burden for some. I'm going to start a thread about pill splitters. Ours is ancient. Still works, but no blade lasts forever.