Chubbypoptart The hole originally measured about 16 feet wide and 24 feet long and about 3 feet deep. The legnth shrunk a bit with building the falls and depth is a little more now, I think about 40" since the water is above ground at the surface. I ordered a 30x40 foot firestone pond liner which was an over estimate. We could have got by with a 25x35 foot liner. I think the cost of the liner was close to $900. My guess is 5000 gallons. The pump is 7000 GPH pump, I went bigger since the hose to the fall is over 20 feet long I thought I might loose some pressure. The pump was about $275.00. Everything else I scrownged or had. I probably spent another $600 on plants. So total price I guess would be about $2000.00 with all the odds and ends. As far as getting it smooth it was easy. Our soil is a sandy loam with no rocks so we just used a flat head shovel to flatten the surfaces. Yes, all dug by hand by my dear husband and son in law. Sanctified, I used Glover Nursery in West Jordan and Earth Systems on 9th east and about 7300 south and a couple online stores. I could not get the liner locally since it was so large. The rocks were collected from Stansbury Island, Skull Valley, the Delle exit off I-80 and west of Utah Lake. I think they found the red ones west of Utah lake. Don't blame you for not doing a pond in WVC, I hear the ground is rocky and impossible to dig in.

Thanks everyone. Funny that Jane was posting a similar question at the same time (I didn't realize when I saw the name of her thread that she was aiming to copy file names). It worked for me to do control print, then control V into a word document. A little awkward in terms of getting all the details to show - but certainly doable. Mikie - I tried the dragging and dropping. Now that was the kind of solution I wanted. It saves it in a simple list - without all this blank space from the screen shot. What an incredibly helpful tip. The first time I tried saving it I chose as text - but that was a mess. The second time I chose as a web page - is that the correct way to do it? And will it stay on my computer? This brings up a problem I've had but didn't think about asking before. I have often saved webpages - esp. from this forum and the cooking forum. But when I go back to open them up, they present a whole list of different files - like a logo from the page, etc. It's no longer complete and recreatable. Is that because I saved it in the wrong format? I had just recently deleted a couple of these when I thought there was no resurrecting the information. Glad I didn't erase more than a few. So if I want to, say, save this thread, I'd hit file, then save as, and choose web page complete? web page html? text files? or all files? Looking at the mess of files from things I saved in the past, I suspect I chose all files - but I honestly don't recall making a selection (and certainly I didn't understand the selection). This is such a useful way for me to save some information. I don't always just want to bookmark something - esp. those web pages that may not be there when I want to refer to them years down the road. Thanks. Lynn. Thank you. Lynn.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Raven and Owbist, I am so grateful to you. It seems I am safe using the screws for the hard drive bay that I already used. Raven - they are the ones in the first link. Owbist - I pilfered the only screw from my old Dell desktop that looked like the right kind. I only found one screw that seemed to match - I'm not certain what it was holding in - perhaps the power source or fan. At any rate, I think I best replace that before I might ever try to start that old computer up. I don't believe it had a floppy drive - or I'd be happy to remove it (it had just a cd drive). The case is fairly secure for now - but I'd feel better securing it completely - if the cleaning woman bumps the vacuum against it - or my daughter roots around there for a lost ball or toy, it might accidentally open. There's no urgency there, but I'd rather get it taken care of. I suppose I could open the tower again - and take out one of the screws - and match it at a store that builds computer parts. But if I don't have to, I'd rather not power everything down and unhook it. If the hard drive seems securing screwed in (and no part of the screw is protuding), can I safely assume it's fine - and just worry about replacing the case screws. that would be easier. I wish I'd come here first - and saved myself some aggravation. not a single person at Dell was able to give me this information - even though they had all the information you guys did. I truly don't want to have to buy from them again. They were similarly inept when I wanted to add a firewire port last summer. They have a front slot for it - but nobody had the right part numbers. Luckily the Dell forum was filled with trials and tribulations of others who'd attempted this - with no consistent accurate answers from Dell. At least someone there provided the necessary parts - in fact, when I ordered what Dell insisted was all I needed, it was only 1/2 of what I needed. Soon my daughter will be ready for a new desktop. Is there a company to buy them from with good reliability and quality and good technical/customer support? Should I just have one built from a computer place that builds computers? that purchase is likely to be in 2010. Thank you again. Lynn.

The fact that the laptop ran and passed the diagnostic test is promising for sure. Computers are designed to shut down automatically when overheating occurs to protect the processor (CPU) so you are unlikely to put the computer at risk. As you were confident enough to change the fan you might consider going into the BIOS on start up. Then depending on the BIOS used you can move across the top using the left or right arrow keys. Select the choices nearer the right side and hit Enter. Now you will see the contents listed underneath, you are looking for the page that gives you the temps and voltages. See how close the running temp is to the alarm upper threshold. Click ESC to escape without saving any changes. Failing that you could download and install Speccy which is owned by the same folks as Ccleaner. It will give you a wealth of information on your machine.