Oh NO! Why me? New bathroom wall 'settled' (?) and tile cracked!
Stacey Collins
13 years ago
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Comments (5)if the installer looselayed and nailed the cement board without a thinset base under it, your entire tile installation is incorrect and compromised because he did not give the backerboard a solid base to begin with by electing to looselay it, which is the incorrect method of installing cement backer board. the correct method(s) of installing cement backer board is in a minimum troweled 1/4" bed of thinset mortar UNDER THE BOARDS and nailed or screwed every 6"-8" and within 1-1/2" from all seams, and some manufacturers allow a bed of high strength construction adhesive UNDER THE BOARDS with the same anchors and naiing pattern, so check with the manufactrer for specifics). This gives the tile system a solid foundation to prevent movement and to flatten or level any minor subfloor inconsistencies that may cause movement in the system that can crack or debond tile and/or grout joints. Loose laying and screwing is insufficient and does not provide that solid foundation so it would be prone to movement that can cause cracks, tile pops, debonding, and/or cracking grout joints. The tiles and cement board needs to be gutted down to the bare subfloor, and the cement board anchored properly, or you may have more problems even worse than what you have now. Basically everything needs to be gutted and reinstalled properly or new product purchased and installed properly if they can not be gutted intact and usable. If that isnt feasible for you or your workers, then any repairs may be a waste of time, quite temporary, and plan on revisiting this issue time and time again over the years. Here is some information on CORRECT installation of cement backerboard systems: How to install Cement Backer Board In my opinion, your should demand the contractor with 30+ years experience gut all his tile and backerbaord work, install new the backerboard properly, then the rest of the tile work, PLUS foot the bill for anything that is damaged or uninstallable because of damage during the removal process ... because he did a crappy job and must guarantee his shoddy workmanship. If he refuses, you may have civil recourse becasue his work is improper. as to removing everything unhamed ... good luck ... i dont think its possible because everything is attached and locked in with thinset. If you must try delicate intact removale, jsutt go slow and pry lightly with just enough force to bring it up, but again, its improbable becasue you are talking cured thinset, so i doubt the matting will survive....See MoreShower Tile chipped in new bathroom addition
Comments (4)Looks like bullnose on an outside corner? Tough to say what would structurally stress an area like that. A shower rod? Good news, it's on the edge of the installation. Removal and repair would not be difficult. And the location minimizes the effective compromising of any waterproofing membrane that might be underneath. Often times cracking of tile occurs on joints. Joints in framing. When new framing settles, or where new framing meets old. Differential movement within the wall. Near the top corner of an exterior window, etc....See Morebathroom wall tile cracks
Comments (26)FinPan Underlayments They are saying the cement board is waterproof. Is that correct? NO! Absolutely NOT!! See the info linked above. The ProTec product used in your showers is water 'resistant'. It is NOT 'waterproof'. Note that you have the cement board product. Which is ordinary run of the mill cement board that requires additional waterproofing measures. Either poly sheeting behind OR surface waterproofing like RedGuard, etc. You do not have the FinPan Pro Panel. Per the website: ProPanel® is a new generation of backerboard that offers waterproof performance all in a six pound board that is mold and mildew resistant. ProPanel® consists of high-density expanded polystyrene reinforced on both sides with fiberglass mesh and a polymer cement coating. It passes ANSI A 118.10 test for water proofness. It does look like the Fin Par ProTec is labeled as waterproof on their website. No, no, no. ProTec is labeled as water resistant. ProPanel is the 'waterproof' product. Again, you have the ProTec 'water resistant' cement board....See MoreAdvice needed for 12' x 7.5' bathroom floor tile and shower wall tile
Comments (25)Home Depot is the only place within two hours that sells the pre-fab, and the colors are horrible. I need three bathroom countertops, and the largest is 52". I should be able to find remnants, but I can't even find fabricators who have remnants. Nobody has a website and the fabricators don't advertise, at all. I found six places in Tulsa, but none of them have quartzite remnants. I can only find stone suppliers. I will make a list of suppliers this weekend, and call them on Monday. Maybe they have a list of fabricators near me. Even Google maps didn't have anyone listed near me. They didn't have the two fabricators that are a half hour away from me. What is your opinion on glossy vs honed in a bathroom. My kitchen has leathered Sea Pearl quartzite, and I love it. I prefer matte colors usually, but I doubt I would like leathered bathroom countertops....See MoreStacey Collins
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