Replace Miele Dishwasher G841? ADA Compliant
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Might replace 5 yr old Miele dishwasher :( -need advice
Comments (117)I found this thread not only interesting, but it was also the kick in the pants that got me to do something about the repeatedly failing water intake valve/solenoid on my Miele Optima (G2420-SCI). The unit was installed new in 2008-2009. We moved into the house in early 2013, and by August that year we experienced our first failure. I do not know if the valve failed in the interval between 2009-2013. I called the local factory authorized installer, and they came out promptly. As I learned after the 2nd failure, they didn’t replace the entire hose/wire/valve, but simply cracked the case and wired-in a new valve. They charged me price of entire unit. Eighteen months later, same problem. I found some info on retrofitting the Miele valve with a GE valve, but I guess I was too timid to try it then. So, I called Miele and explained the problem. They comp’d me 33% on the new part, and this time they changed out the entire assembly. It worked fine until July ’16 when it developed same problem. This time they comp’d me the entire part and did another replacement. Every time they checked the inlet water temp it was below 130 degrees. The new part installed in August ’16 has barely lasted 8 months! We tried to use the machine over Easter weekend, and it came up with the same humming sounds of no water coming in and then popping off the “F12” fault code. After embarrassingly spending/wasting $1000 on 3 valve replacements, I finally decided to look back into the GE valve, and that’s how I got here. I was a GardenWeb member for years before Houzz, but lost touch, until I found this thread. Good x2. I followed the instructions on the YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LaqSO-Oyuw I opted to use the GE WD15X10003 valve as per the video, and not the WD15X93, mentioned earlier in this thread. As far as I could tell online, the two units are functionally comparable. The bracket and molded switch housing of the X93 are somewhat different, necessitated by the fact that the X93 is designed to be tucked into a cramped under-washer position in a GE system. It is also about $10 cheaper than the X10003, but the X10003 was available by Prime on Amazon, so I could fix it right away. I would guess that any of a number of these valves would be fine, since they would sit on the floor of the under-sink cabinet, and not require specific in-machine installation. The water inlet connection on the GE valve is a 3/8” Female iron pipe thread (FIP). My water source connector is a S/S flex hose with a 3/8” female compression fitting. To mate them I needed to pick up a 3/8” male-male brass connector with one end MIP and the other a compression thread. Connecting them was no problem, but getting them leak-free at the MIP-FIP connection was a bit of an issue. One has to hold the valve in one hand while tightening with the other and it’s hard to get a good grip on the valve portion. I used plumber’s tape first, but on the second try I used 1 wrap of plumber’s tape and a thread filler-sealer called “Hercules Block.” It’s a somewhat messy blue paste, but it did the trick. The wire connections were straightforward, just as explained in the video. I test ran it twice yesterday, and it worked normally, just as the OEM valve, and so far, there are no leaks. The time between failure and repair was only 3 days (not the typical Miele 3 weeks), and the out-of-pocket costs for valve, connector, sealer, electrical connectors was $40. (not $450+). The satisfaction of DIY, and un-shackling from the burdensome, confiscatory Miele system?....priceless. My only regret is that I should have done this after the 2nd failure...or the 3rd...slow learner, I guess....See MoreADA Compliant Dishwasher Suggestions
Comments (7)Thanks for the reponses. Cavimum, I love AJ for research, its my go to site because with a small house there are always size limitations on everything I buy and they have the best information! Alex, I love knowing where things are from so I do appreciate the link. Mystery I am so glad you posted! The Bosch is my first choice but the salesman at the last place I visited was trying to convince me the Whirlpool was a better option for ease of service. I have no real objection to either I just thought the Whirlpool was not attractive (top is black and body is silver, WHY?!) and you walk right into the dishwasher when you come into my kitchen. My beautiful but oh so leaky GE was completely flat in front, buttons were not visible. The other choice was an Asko (no delay which I need) and someone told me their wife and son each hated theirs! So I thought I was set on the Bosch until the last store. Did you have any trouble installing? The Whirlpool salesman said something about that they sometimes have to charge extra for installing the Europeon brands. I have an old house so always get leery. I am ok with the long cycles (how can something be MORE energy efficient if it takes longer to do something?!) and the plastic thing, thanks for warning me, it would have annoyed me if I did not know in advance I try never to run dishwashers or dryers at night. Years ago, in the middle of the day my parents had flames come shooting out of their American made (Circa 1980) dishwasher. It was about 14 years old and they replaced it with the same brand! So I guess it did not bother them too much, ever since then I try not to run that stuff at night...See MoreMiele Dishwasher - Cutout Question
Comments (7)Many thanks whirpool_trainee. The current dw is a Bosch, +8yro and we've repaired it twice at considerable expense along with the "fix" for the panel associated with perhaps a "fire" (no charge by Bosch for the recall). We've spent more on the dw than it is worth. Our kitchen is open to the den and the noise interferes with conversation, tv, music etc... hence the search for something quiet. Your info on the XXL helps! Miele really needs to fix this installation page; it's the same for all models and inconsistent with their specs. The ADA model has a 6" kickplate and I'm told loses about 2" inside, also it is only average on Miele scale of "noise". attofarad; we think alike :-D I really want your interpretation and my interpretation to be correct! I talked to Miele again today; they are very nice and patient with my questions. The rep asked a technical person who said the dw will fit and if it does not they will take it back. They also told me the dw cannot be installed without the feet since the cord exits the unit from the bottom and there is some kind of "drip pan" too. My plan is to have the old dw removed and measure then measure again before ordering. Miele is pretty pricey, but it if lasts for 20 yrs then it's a good deal. Truely, I appreciate the responses from whirlpool_trainee and attofarad....See MoreMiele ADA dishwashers
Comments (18)mark is just muddying the waters. A Miele ( the company that invented it) cutlery tray is the same in both ADA and reg. DWs. IF , note I said IF, you go with an ADA model then the height in the MIDDLE basket is reduced somewhat but everything else is the same. but...................... It may make no difference to you in the real world. I have crate @ barrel everyday dishes that are 10 1/2" tall and they fit in my mieleADA dishwashers just fine and still allow a pint glass or Tervis Tunbler to fit in the middle basket just fine. I can even get champagne flutes in there if I lean them on the folding stemware tines. And guess what - them get clean ! It really only makes a diff to a very small section of the dish buying public and those OCD specification sheet collectors. Now, we could have another discussion about the merits of the third or cutlery tray , but I think there are already a couple of those around here already. The pertinent point is that now that Miele's patent has expired all the high level players have gone to to that arrangement. That should tell you what you need to know....See More
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