The reason I think they are the same is that after the secondary computer (the one which actually works on downloading) was scrubbed, I re-loaded the files from the disks from which I loaded the primarily computers programs. These were both done using the install wizard so I changed no individual settings. The suffix on the attachments which I can't download are .jpg and .doc. It doesn't matter from whom. As I stated, they are fairly small sized. None of these are downloading correctly (at all). The computer previously worked fine and I changed no settings. The email program is Yahoo. I am accessing them throught he same ISP, and they are the same mailbox. Both machines are running off the same McAfee with the same settings as I stated above as they were both installed by me without changing any settings.

Well, the cows aren't on the roof, but the antique blocks that usually spell out Merry Christmas, more often than not are spelling something entirely different !!!! You'd be amazed how many words can be made from those letters !!! I have so enjoyed this thread and everyone's posts -- really touching, and I would just say a kind of quiet "oh wow" to myself when I read the posts from some of you that were caught up in the Christmas rush of getting stuff done, but thought of what I'd said, and took time out to sit and talk and play with your kids !! I loved reading the posts where the grown-up kids would all come home -- ZShopper, I think that is just so absolutely wonderful that all your kids - plus (!!) will be spending the night Christmas Eve !! I think all of us at times try to re-capture the magic of our younger years !!! Heck, !! I wouldn't mind spending Christmas Eve at my mom's in front of the fireplace like I always used to do !!!!!! Maggie, I loved the "Before I Was a Mom" -- and Paige, the words to the song -- wonderful !! Re-reading through all these wonderful posts -- I kept thinking of the STRONG mom-child bond -- and all the so very similar feelings that we, as moms, share -- no matter what station in life we're in -- I was talking to a friend the other day -- our sons went to school together a few years ago -- she's pretty much the kind of mom that I am -- her son's an only child, and we've always talked about how all our eggs are in one basket -- we had our sons later in life (39 for each of us ) we both have said on numerous occasions that being a mom is the best job in the world -- that we really enjoyed every stage -- even those terrible twos, and the teenage years, which for each of us, has been really special. Well, anyway, we started talking about college -- and she said that the other day she was driving and all of a sudden it hit her -- that her job was almost over -- or at least as she'd known the job to that point. Said she burst into tears while she was driving. I said, that yeah, I'd thought about that too -- We'll always be a mom, but it will just be a different job -- It's not that I want to turn back the clock, just slow it down a little bit !! I just love seeing this wonderful, capable young man that DH and I've raised. And I do realize that I've raised him to be independent and to be able to go out in the world and create a life for himself -- my rational side knows that -- my emotional side is having a hard time with it. And the college thing -- oh my -- On the one hand, it all seems so very exciting -- on the other hand, well . . . just kind of hard to think about !! Reading the posts of those of you with kids at college . . tugged at my heart .. Oh, and Ivette, let the door be blue !!! It can always be painted someday if you don't like it !!!!!! But, I think you'll probably LOVE it !!!!! Just one last thing, then I really need to get going and get ready for "breakfast with the girls" at my house tomorrow -- The most joyous sounds this holiday season -- to me -- are the sounds of power tools in the garage -- saws, compressors, and who knows what all !!!!! Not sure if any of you remember me posting about DS's ulnar nerve damage -- Long story short, he'd been in chronic pain for months - had numbness in his fingers and hand -- wasn't able to do anything -- had to give up his beloved woodworking, constructing, etc. It was even looking as if he'd have to consider another career path, because we weren't hearing very positive things from the medical roller coaster we found ourselves on. His pain was so intense that not even taking Vicodin at night helped it, he'd stopped doing anything but the absolute essentials, wasn't really even talking about college. Fast forward to going outside our HMO, finding a wonderful, wonderful surgeon -- Surgery was performed six weeks ago, and DS is "back in the saddle" once again !!!!!!! Ahead of schedule, even !!!! He has essentially been given his life back !! And I feel that we are so very blessed -- the best Christmas present in the entire world !! Life is good, and to be cherished !! Chris

I have to disagree with the statement about Mush making a big scene, I didn't find this post to be hurtful or hysterical or "drama queen" material. I would prefer to read that someone is leaving for a while rather than worry about her sometime in the future. And she's right- this forum IS different, we've all pretty much agreed on that point. I don't recall anyone insisting that we need to all agree about everything all the time, that would be an unreasonable expectation and unwanted, too. On the other hand, I don't think it's too much to ask for people to be polite or tactful, instead of rude or hurtful or tenacious to the point of obnoxiousness. That's my point about presentation. When Mom said "nobody likes a know-it-all", she was right. But hey, this is just what I think. I know everyone is not the same and we don't all have the same temperament and feelings are going to be hurt occasionally. I would hope it would be accidentally, instead of on purpose, though.

Frontier so far is pretty funny & frustrating too to me. I now have my original Verizon email which is actually older mike@gte.net forwards to mail.AOL.com which forwards to mike@hotmail.com . I did get some kind of customer access code number mailed to my Hotmail which was on the account for Verizon as contact email. I have no idea what to do with that yet. But I go to Frontier and I don't seem to have an account yet.. to pay my bill online... keeps sending me around in circles. I imagine they are kind of busy right now. I can see how they have probably messed up big time... my Verizon mail all forwarded to Hotmail... when they changed me to mail.aol.com... they quit forwarding it to Hotmail and had it all going to AOL. If I hadn't realized what happened .. I'd be missing and wondering where some very important mail was. I'd almost suspect Verizon will have their FIOS in my neighborhood in coming months and be offering FIOS packages at lesser prices than Frontier sells the services it bought from verizon. Kind of like using the money they sold me to frontier for, to string fiber to my neighborhood. Lots of this area already has been slowly getting the FIOS strung around.