Can a griddle addict love induction?
TwoBelles
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Comments (20)Kathycooks, I think I am the owner of the bridge you are talking about. Today my cooktop was repaired (successfully!)and I saw the inside. It appears that the bridge is not a "true bridge". The space inbetween the two burners does not heat up. This was confirmed when we boiled water on top with the pan and could see the boiling bubbles. However, when my son cooked bacon the other day, he did not notice any "cold spots" or problems cooking so the heat transfer with the pan was good enough so he did not have any problems. He is only 14 but he is picky enough about the bacon that he does not allow someone else to cook it for him. I think the size of the griddle itself is a bigger drawback the the bridging design but for how we cook, neither appears to be much of a problem....See MoreDouble grill/griddle pan for Miele induction
Comments (10)The problem isn't the single pan over two elements. The bridge is specifically for that, but most older units can handle the long pan if the elements are paired. The trick without a powered bridge element is not having a cold center. Without a bridge, clad is essential for that reason. The copper and/or aluminum speed up the warming to the center. With a powered bridge, you're fine with cast iron. The double I was warning about is a "grill/griddle plate". I have two, from before I had induction. Both are cast iron. One is Le Creuset, and single burner sized, though square. I have a two burner gas unit I use it on still, and I put it in the oven for broiling lamb chops. The grill is small fine ridges. Both sides have gutters for the fat. The big one is very heavy--a gift--branded with a famous chef's name. It's too big for any stove I've ever used, but good in the oven fro things like kebobs. It has big honkin' ridges. I find both kinds of ridges useful, depending on what I'm making. Anyway, the trouble with grill on one side and griddle on the other (the griddle of the small one is good for things like hotdogs, where the hot air from the gas coming up around it is useful), is that there's a raised ridge around both sides. That gives it something to sit on, since both sides are cooking surfaces. There are also some older pots that have ridges to stand on. All makers of induction stoves say not to use these. I wondered why for awhile, since the important part is still within the field and heat up fine. Y'know how with induction the surface of the stove heats up not from the energy going through it but from the heat of the pot sitting on it? This effect also works with the air captured between the surface and the pot, closed in by the rim the pot/griddle is standing on. The air can get extremely hot and cause burns when you move the pot. It can also get hot enough, apparently (I've only read about it happening once or twice), that enough stress is added to crack the stove. I don't know the accuracy of the latter, but for sure the burn issue is factual. On a Miele, the field should be strong enough to power a double sided pan adequately, but I'd still suggest that you'd do better with separate grill and griddle pans. Always, with induction, you'll get the best outcome if you have the most of the pot as possible in direct contact with the glass. If you were hoping for double duty, you might consider using a big roaster as a griddle if the sides won't annoy you. You can make pancakes in the same kind of pan that you use for lasagna or a small turkey. OTOH, you can also use a two burner griddle as a plancha....See MoreThermador Freedom induction 36" cooktop or Wolf 36" induction range?
Comments (54)@r, I thought I would chime in here to just say that I don’t think you are “obsessing“ at all regarding the use of knobs in this case. One of the most crucial variables in any kind of industrial design is the way we interface or interact with whatever the product is. Most of us utilize capacitive touch controls or infrared type touch controls on a constant basis with everything from iPads, smart phones, as well as any number of house appliances. But I would suggest that your instinct regarding cooktop or rangetop controls makes a lot of sense. Consider the difference in using a wall oven versus a cooktop. Most cooks in the kitchen can get the opportunity to wipe their hands in order to use touch capacitive controls on a wall oven. Of course, the case could be made that turning a simple dial, can be more intuitive, then going through a series of menus to get to where you want to go, since in the end, the mission of the wall oven has not really changed very much since our grandparents time which is essentially to bake the cake or roast the chicken. The reason I suspect that cook tops and range tops, as well as ranges are a particularly good candidate for knobs is due to the fact that the controls are often placed on a horizontal plane. Many people, especially those who are new to induction appliances for example, have learned a hard lesson as the very sensitive touch controls do not always take kindly to steam, water, droplets, and oil or gravy splatters. It is not hard to imagine why this is problematic because if you put any of these liquids on top of your smart phone screen, you would discover that the touch controls that works so beautifully such as the ones I’m using right now on my iPhone to create this post do not take kindly to having these substances on top of them. There are lots of examples of folks who have touch capacitive controls on these horizontal locations where the entire appliance is either shut down or thrown off its game. Of course, the majority of modern products that have knobs do not use the analog/mechanical controls of knobs of the past, but are in fact, “knobs“ that interface with micro control boards behind them. Still, there is an entire field of design that studies user interaction, and I do think that, at least, in some instances, such as with cooktops, knobs actually, do make a lot of sense. One can certainly debate where the best location for those knobs would be to avoid getting splatters on them since Cleaning knobs is not exactly, a fun time for most folks. Some people would assume that installing Touch Sensitive controls in all sorts of consumer products that once used knobs, levers, and buttons, is simply a design trend, and I’m sure there is truth to that. But a little voice inside also suggests to me, that one of the reasons they have moved away from knobs and especially the electromechanical kinds used in the past, is due to the cost of manufacturing. I do not have a data set to support this theory, but if you consider the labour and the bewildering amount of copper wiring that went into something such as a 1950 electric stove, some of which had lots of extra features, you can begin to imagine the cost savings of having a micro “motherboard“ taking the place of all that complex analogue electrical structure. I truly enjoy all of the benefits and possibilities that I have with my smart phone, laptop, iPads, etc. But I do think your instincts for knobs are not without merit, because sometimes, appliance designers attempt to answer questions that no one ever asked. My two. Cents 🤔....See MoreInduction + Bridge Elements: Do You Love It?
Comments (20)@mascibbe Seems like there are four questions here: (1) can any residential range handle a griddle that large; (Answer: not safely. Anything 30" x 30" is much larger than the surface real estate of residential ranges. Basically, 30"-deep griddle is going to be overhanging the front of a residential range by five or six inches.) (2) Does your griddle actually measure 30" x 30" or did you possibly just assume that it is that size because you have a 30" wide stove or cooktop? (I ask because all the four-burner-spanning griddles I've seen have been more like 23" x 23" such as the Chef King model in this link: https://www.amazon.com/Chef-King-Gauge-Steel-Griddle/dp/B001BQTH8I (3) Assuming you have a griddle that is less deep (like that Chef King), could you use it on an induction range? (Maybe, maybe not. Depends in part on what it is made of. The Chef King is carbon steel which works on induction. Many of the other big griddles I've seen are all-aluminum. That's great for heat spreading over gas but does not work on induction. Also, bear in mind that many induction ranges have differing sized burners and many also have their burner control as touch pads along the front of the cooking surface; a griddle would have to be a less than 20 inches deep --- maybe several inches less --- in order to avoid blocking the control surfaces. ) (4) Do any induction ranges or cooktops allow four-burner spanning bridging with a differently sized and shaped griddle than the one you described? (Maybe. Apart from the Asko cooktop that kevinande found, IIRC, some Wolf 36" induction ranges and and 36" induction cooktops do or did allow allow four-way linking of burners, with some caveats. See this Wolf FAQ page for the company's statements about this: https://www.subzero-wolf.com/assistance/answers/wolf/common/induction-cooktop-bridge.html.)...See MoreTwoBelles
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