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My vision
I wanted to blend this bathroom with the kitchen remodel that was done in the summer of 2011. I wanted a nice area for guest to use when visiting. Our other BR is at the other end of the house so not a great choice for guest. I wanted something soothing and “lovely”. I wanted some luxurious aspects to the room too. Overall, with the kitchen and with the BR, there was this theme I had in mind to keep the style of the original build. My Bathroom is a shed roof constructed addition, built on to the house in 1930 or so, when the house got moved from town to the farm. It’s a tiny house. The BR walls still had the original plaster embossed 4x4 tile look wainscot that the plasterer did. So I wanted to keep that style - but make it real tile. I realize having the bathroom off of the kitchen is not a desirable location and I could have closed the door and created a new one on the porch, but I chose to keep the original door location. My sister was surprised. I was originally going to take out the tub and put my W/D in there, but my DS was so sentimental about the room and taking baths there when a (dirty) little guy, that I kept the tub in the plans, scratching the W/D. I wanted to keep the BR looking somewhat similar in cabinet make and style as the kitchen, except painted cabinetry. I had in mind who I wanted to make my cabinets too. I saw some of his work and was impressed. And finally, I wanted to make more soapstone counters ☺ which ended up turning into a sink because I could be assured of a larger sink and still fit my constraint of 18” depth vanity.
So my vision didn't evolve in isolation. I took into account the history of the farm, house, family, function, friends, local craftspeople, and my design.
Function
There were functional issues I wanted to improve upon, and some functional aspects I wanted to keep. I wanted to move the toilet out from behind the door so that the door didn’t bang into the rim each time it was opened. I was surprised that the toilet tolerated this treatment over the years. I wanted a somewhat accessible bathroom in case a wheel chair or walker was in the future. I planned the layout to meet ideal spacing for the most part. That was why I needed the 18” deep vanity and the round bowl toilet that I chose. I selected the tub to be low enough to get dogs and kids in and out of. Storage was a premium and I added roll out shelving and a pull out upper, in a small tower. These new cabinets replicate what was already there, but are new and with more style and function. I may not be able to cram as much junk into the cabinets with the roll outs, but what is there is accessible. I don’t need all that extra stuff anyway. I drew multiple floor plans, measuring everything to be sure the small space could work with my vision. Once I found my measurements I could start the selection of elements to fill the room.
The room was totally gutted down to the studs. All the electrical replaced and all the plumbing taken out and replaced. I kept the flooring and subflooring because the wood was in such good shape and it was probably old growth timber, nice tight grain. Can't beat that. We added 2x8 joist (DH did :) to strengthen the floor for stone tile. I prepped the floor for the self leveling compound to a T as instructed by Bill V.
To add the element of luxury, I put in radiant floor heating. I used a high-end tub filler with shower wand, and matching high-end wall mounted faucet. There is LED lighting under the vanity shelf and behind the mirror for night lighting. I used a marble listello to give some style to the wainscot. And of course my SS sink with the wonderfully lovely vanity base that Brett made for me. Oh, I can’t forget that I put in the slate floor in a herringbone pattern to add another style element. Remembering how Angie DIY cut all her tiles for her kitchen, I cut my 12x12 tiles down for herringbone. Thanks to Mongo for helping me on the layout and the tile cutting equation.
DIY
This was a DIY project except for the plumbing and the electrical. All of the heavy stuff got delegated to DH and DS, with me being the boss :) Of course if something needed problem solving, DH stepped up and helped me. Although, he did not help me with the grunting, I mean grouting. He just stayed in his office and periodically asked if I was ok. He has farmed all his life and in a previous life was an aerospace engineer out of college as well as a stint in the army. I used his smarts to help me along the way. I used the remodel forum a lot to figure out how work with the joist/flooring support to ready it for stone. Brickeyee, Renovator8, Worthy, sombreuil_mongrel (aka Casey) helped a lot with that one. Someone commented that it was one of the most over thought floors on the forum in a long time. Mongo and Bill V. helped with both the floor and the tiling. Mongo really explains things well, beyond tile. I went over Stacyneil’s thread about self leveling compound with a fine toothed comb. The JB forum was a lot of help too! I ran by my Ditra issues both here and on JB. Regarding the dry wall Brickeyee was very helpful. He coached me through it all. I had a big hole in my ceiling too that I fixed with the remodel forum’s help.
One benefit of taking a year, is that it gave me time to really think about things before committing to them. Since I have never done this before it was so helpful to have the time to learn. The down side with taking a year is that it gives you time to change your mind on finishes too many times, and end up with not only chrome, but polished nickel, polished stainless steel, worn pewter, and natural iron in the mix! Oh well, it will give it a layered look, right?
One last point, I messed with my Photobucket account last month and all of my old posts no longer have images attached to them !!! :( I will add a few from those old post to show some of the process and progress along the way.
Products
1. Fan, PANASONIC FAN FV-15VQ5
2. Lights, Norwell, Emily sconce 100watts each, chrome
3. Window, Windsor Windows
4. Tub Filler & Hand Shower, wall mounted, chrome, Hansgrohe Axor Montreux with handheld shower
5. Faucet, Hansgrohe Axor Montreux wall mount chrome with cross handles
6. Tub, Kohler Bellwether 837, white cast iron
7. Tub drain, Kohler K-T37397-CP PureFlo™ Victorian Push Button bath drain trim
8. Floor, special order black slate from Home Depot in 12x12 gauged.
9. Floor heating system, 240 volt Warm Wire by Sun Touch; wire system with thermostat and 2 temp probes (one not hooked up but in the electrical box in case the other fails)
10. Tile underlayment, Ditra over the ply that Bill Vincent specifies in his FAQ site.
11. Thin set, Ditra-Set un-modified, for the floor; Hydroment Single-Flex for the walls, modified.
12. Wall tiles:
a. 4x4 white ceramic tiles that I got off of Craigslist
b.listello is “Hampton” marble mosaic from The Tile Shop (I cut it apart because the spacing was not good and some of the tiles where different sizes so where culled)
c. Crown, Johnson Tile that I got off of Craigs List. When I ran out was able to locate them at Best Tile in Syracuse, NY.
d. Base board tile from The Tile Shop.
13. Grout and caulk, Laticrete caulk to match the grout. Spectralock epoxy grout in Silver Shadow for the walls. Platinum and Silver Shadow 3:1 ratio for the floor.
14. Moisture barrier for tub walls, HydroBan
15. Paint, all Benjamin Moore, except lacquer, which was colored to BM colors
a. Bath and Spa for the walls in Bunny Gray
b. Vanity is ML Campbell lacquer, colored to BM “Thundercloud Gray", #2124-40
c. Cabinets, ML Campbell lacquer colored to "Distant Gray" #2124-70
d. Casement around door and window, BM Super White
e. Painted Pine standing cupboard, BM misty gray 2124-60
16. Built-in Cabinets and Vanity, Brett Arganbright, proprietor of River Valley Woodcraft.
17. Sink, Soapstone remnant that I got from Bertini’s Tile and Marble.
18. Counters, Soapstone remnant that I got from Bertini’s Tile and Marble.
19. Toilet, Toto Promenade, round front, ADA height.
20. Toilet seat, Inax Advanced Toilet Seat L-series (round) CW-W130-LU
21. Grab bars, Kohler (?model) 24” and 18” at tub in polished stainless steel. 24” is used as towel bar.
22. Hardware
a. Amerock knobs on vanity and tub cabinet in worn nickel (pewter color)
b. Emtec door hinges (black) and lever handle (Napoli in silver patina on bathroom side and black on kitchen side)
c. Rockler hinges for painted pine cupboard, 3/8'' Inset Partial Wrap Hinges - Oil Rubbed Bronze, 3 pair
d. HD Martha Stewart knobs (black?) x 2, on painted pine cupboard
e. Towel bar on vanity, Baldwin in chrome that I cut down to 13 or 14 inchs.
CLICK on the image and it will take you to Photobucket where the images are shown in a "story board" format that Photobucket has created. I will try this technique and if things don't work out, I will post a few pictures.
edited 4-6-13 to correct the floor warming wire product name to Sun Touch.
This post was edited by enduring on Mon, Apr 8, 13 at 22:09
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9 years agolast modified: 7 years agoHemera, you should be able to click on the image that I posted and be taken to Photobucket where I have an album created. Have you tried that?
Raehelen, here is a floor plan of my drawing. The room is 9.5'x6.5' -The vanity is 36"x18" - The toilet is a round front toilet so that I could get lots of room between the toilet and the vanity for a wheel chair, etc between the fixtures. One draw back to having the vanity across from the toilet is that the sink is out of reach and this is new for me. I had not thought of the functional issue that presents, but I have always lived with a sink within reaching distance from the sitting position. I can kind of reach the tub faucet though. I do really like the advanced toilet seat, I always feel so clean :) Really like the tub cabinet next to the toilet, it is a mini supply station. If the cabinet didn't have a door on it the toilet could have been set a bit closer to the tub so that I could reach the faucet better. As it is, the toilet sets about 16" from the tank side, to the face of the cabinet.
Olychick, thank you so much! You know I am a BIG fan or your bathroom. I am going to recreate a rendition of you vanity cabinet layout in my other bathroom that I am just going to get started. Stay tuned to the BR forum as I post a question regarding your set up.
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Comments (9)I love this too! It's not often (ever?) that you use "whimsical" and "sexy" in the same sentence but that's what I'm going with for your room. There's alot to love about this room... the waterfall faucet, the dark tile with the perfect shade of orange, the custom artwork and octopus stencil, the rugs.... It's fabulous and I hope you and your family smile every time you walk in....See More?Pocket Door for Bathroom? x-post on the remodel forum.
Comments (9)Geoffrey, Thanks again. The problem is that I can't build the pocket door assembly infront of the 2x4 because that is our hallway. I can only come into the bathroom space for the extra space. I could have an extra wall built for the shower, that bumps into the room at the shower area. I just got off the line with Johnson Hardware people. They stated that they recommend sheathing the pocket area, once constructed, with 3/4" ply. Then on top of that goes the cement board for the tile installation. I asked if the ply should be exterior grade, and the customer service rep. said they didn't think so, or it would have been specified that way by their people. I also indicated in our conversation that I would be using their framing kit that includes the steel clad split studs, and all the hanging hardware. I don't know if that made a difference in the recommendation of the plywood or not. What do you think of that plan? I had hoped to use the hardware from Hafele, but not the framing kit, that is way expensive. But I thought the Hafele might be a good system. I watched an independent Youtube video on Hafele pocket door and it was mentioned sometimes people use the Johnson combined with the floor channel kit from Hafele, to keep the door centered. I was about ready to throw in the towel and do a barn door in the hallway side of the room. I don't know, it might just be a lot easier and I still might do this....See MoreMaster bathroom help-crosspost from bathroom forum
Comments (19)olychick, thank you for taking a look. :) I'm relieved to hear you think a white shower pan is best. I am heading out now to find porcelain marble look tiles for the shower walls to pick up the gray as you suggested. I want a shiny finish to the walls. Tell me if you think that's a misstep. I am avoiding marble as I have a marble topped vanity now that is pock marked with etchings. As far as seeing myself in the vanity, yes, I think I will be able to do so. I was planning on a black framed mirror spanning the vanity. My current vanity is 32 1/4" high (as will be the new vanity) and when seated on my vanity stool my reflection is seen up to my chest. The only issue currently is that my knees are pressed against drawers. I failed to mention that I was thinking of using absolute black granite for the vanity top for two reasons: one being cost and the other being to avoid etching. Will doing so deviate too much from my inspiration? Lastly, I had the idea of applying pieces of beveled mirror framed by black molding floor to ceiling along the back wall and continuing behind the toilet (similar to this only floor to ceiling with the exception of base molding & crown): [Traditional Bathroom[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-bathroom-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_712~s_2107) by Northbrook Architects & Building Designers Michael A. Menn Thoughts? Suggestions? Thank you for reading this far. :)...See MorePartial remodel of upstairs bathrooms, REVEAL
Comments (6)Yes, the cabinets were wood. They were in good shape so I didn't see the need to replace them. I probably shouldn't have said "refacing" because he didn't actually remove the front pieces of the cabinet. He added some wood for the new hinges to attach to. He made new doors and drawer fronts, and installed full extension glides and and soft close hinges. The old hinges were on the outside. This picture shows the piece of wood that he added. Without that there would have been nothing to screw the new hinge into. I think if we had actually refaced, the hinges would have attached to the side of the cabinet, but I'm not sure about that. Maybe this same type of added would still would have been required because the side of the cabinet is not very thick. The office cabinet needed some extra reinforcing. He added some wood to the inside of that one at the top. He was worried that the granite installers might damage the cabinet if they pushed and pulled on the granite or set it down too hard. He still asked me to warn the installers to be extra careful on that one because he couldn't reinforce it as much as he wanted to. It was difficult to place the wood where he wanted to because it would have interfered with the drawers and he had only so much room between the front of the cabinet and where the sink would go. I can't say that I totally understand what he did to reinforce that one, but it all worked out. If it had gotten damaged, I guess he could have just rebuilt the whole thing, but thankfully that wasn't necessary. My goal was to keep it as simple as possible and I'm thankful that it all worked out that way. This project went so smoothly I can hardly believe it, a welcome change from my kitchen experience! Can't wait to tackle the master bathroom, but have to save up for a while first....See Moretreasuretheday
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9 years agolast modified: 7 years agoThank you both for your kind words, thanks so much for looking and sharing your thoughts with me.
Cat_mom, I love that frog too. He sat for years in the dining room by the clock, they both came from my DH's DA (dear aunt) after she past away. Now he has is spot in a nice shady bathroom and feels more at home in the spa like atmosphere.
Mabeldingeldine, of course you can come and visit :) I think you would like what else I have up my sleeve. Yesterday I took some pictures of the old granary that is on the farm. I have wanted to make it a place for guest or a quiet summer studio. I will post a few picts, I know its off topic, (thats how I ended up with too many metals in my BR) I have a location too for the building. Tell me what you think. I want to post it over on the remodel forum or, I think there might be a small house forum. I will have to take a look:
I think the building is probably 8x10'. Isn't the sky beautiful!
And this would have to come with (thats paint droppings and not bird droppings):
And put it over there someplace along the windbreak. It is north of the barn which is north of our house. So the site is a ways off and secluded:
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9 years agolast modified: 7 years agoDid this remodel last summer. We never planned to go this modern but we got the vanity and granite counter top for $300 at menards. It's a $1500 vanity special made and the people who paid for it never came to pick it up. It sat in the store for 2 years and that's how we got such a great deal
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9 years agolast modified: 7 years agoSorry about that enduring. I hope this pictures come through
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8 years agolast modified: 7 years agoI am here for bathroom re-design with the mirror topic. I love my bathroom & changing the design in every 6 months. I think framed decorative mirrors are the best things to decorate bathroom with mirrors. I attached the new & fresh designed capture of my bathroom.
Here is a link that might be useful: framed decorative mirrors
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last yearThis old thread got revisited. @dani_m08 to answer the question about extra probe, I believe I ordered an extra one when I bought the set up. The probe wire is just setting in the junction box I think but honestly I cant remember. When I laid out the underfloor heating and the probe, I just ran another probe near the first probe, and it was then sealed into the floor self leveling compound as per instructions. then the end was just threaded into the wall like the one that would be live, and not connected, but just laying there in the box.
Regarding the tile layout. I just decided to run it this way, after getting instructions on the 90Degree way, IIRC. The herringbone that I love is from my childhood and the side walks in my neighborhood that all ran at 45Degree. so that to me is herringbone.
I know you posted on @sochi thread about her amazing bathroom and a wall mounted faucet. I would totally do it if I had the right sink for it. In my case I had made my sink out of soapstone and an integrated backsplash. The pictures of this bathroom reveal are no longer available because of the use of photo bucket, when it was Gardenweb. I did not keep my account with photo bucket.
I'll add some of the reveal pictures so you can see the sink and floor. Regarding the sink there is no ledge for water to drip from my hands when using the faucet. The water drips right into the sink. In my other bathroom with a deck mounted faucet I am always wiping up drips and it is a nuisance. I much prefer the setup for this sink.
Below: I love the flush finish from the faucet to the bottom of the sink. nothing drips on a counter or edge of a sink.
Below: looking in from the doorway.
Below: Here I am finishing up the sink. the backsplash was epoxied on as a separate piece. The whole soapstone install in the room took next to nothing to buy as they were all small pieces that I epoxied together with a 3 part stone epoxy.
Below: this is the counter at the tub, and is in 2 long pieces but I was able to epoxy them together at there edges to make a wide slab for the top. All the soapstone was finished with a 60 grit sandpaper to be rough and this lovely soft tone of blue/green/gray/white. I did not oil it so this color tone would remain light.
Below: If I recall correctly @sochi helped me decide on this Hubberton Forge Mirror. I have 3 different metals in this room, but they are all a cool silver to black color.
Below: the center of this tower shares space with the kitchen on the other side of the wall. there is also some extra space that houses some electrical wiring. this is an old simple house. this bathroom was an add on when it got move to the farm in the 30s IIRC. The plumbing was all rearrange and some of the details that were orignially there I kept but updated it, such as this tower feature. The old one went and the carpenter did a wonderful job with this one.
Below: This feature was another thing I kept from the old bathroom but flipped it from the other end and had the carpenter put drawers in it. Before it was a hell hole. things got lost and the build was soooo old and creapy I didn't like using it for storage. Now it is perfect for storage.
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