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Here's a link with some info on the "ditch lily daylily", that shows pics of some of the variations with names of them. Claire, Carl, there is something kind to be said about the so called "ditch lily". I guess unless you are a purist with daylilies, it has it's place in the garden and I'm far from a purist with my daylily bed. Carl, that is a perfect name and description for them. "ditch lily with an attitude". They are a work horse in the gardens, never fail to come back, never fail to bloom, never fail to please the eye with it's several varieties. given the right location, they will spread to their heart's content; and in my opinion, are a beautiful variety, in their own right, and don't deserve the harsh words that the daylily pros give it. I wouldn't be without mine, lovingly given to me about 26 years ago from a neighbor to start my daylily bed. They are prominently in the bed and surprisingly enough, and I know I shouldn't say this, but they have not really taken over the bed either. Fran My daylily bed from this year. pics taken from early June through 7/28 mid June when the first of the ditch lilies start to bloom along with the yellow in the front called happy returns, daylily bed taken 7/28 single "ditch lily" double "ditch lily" hyperion scents the gardens beautifully 7/12 ruffled hyperion, also scents beautifully happy returns, 7/28. blooms from early June and repeat blooms till the frost takes it away in early to mid Oct. pandora's box 7/24 siloam uri winford 7/25 red pinocchio, a really scarlet red that the pic doesn't show 7/27 Catherine Woodbury 7/27 a burgundy, no ID, didn't keep the tag 7/12 a cream but looks more white in the pic. no id, didnt' keep the tag purple d'oro, been blooming since 7/10 and still is These are the results of a purchase of bare roots in a bag that where labeled "hybrid daylilies" and marked down to $.25 at a big box store in mid August 5 years ago. Been able to identify a few of them only rocket city 7/26. been blooming since 7/12 and still has about 75 buds left of it's original 220 buds. Yup the math genius, engineer, DH decided to count them all. franz hals 7/12 and still blooming away autumn red 7/24 and these from the same bag with no id to them but just beautiful Salmon pink 7/12 and 7/24 still blooming away gold, 7/25 pale pink 7/26 bicolor 7/26 This beauty 7/12 and 7/27 still blooming

Don V - I can report that DE and Captain Jack's Dead Bug dust does not do well on the damned cuke beetles either. About the only thing that's worked so far is a dusting of Sevin when they were extremely bad. I can justify using Sevin early in the season but don't want to use that stuff close to harvest. I put out one of those cucumber beetle traps at the far end of the garden nearest the woods in our backyard - hoping that any that come from that way get caught up at the trap prior to entering the garden. Also hoping that it doesn't just attract even more of them (:-/)

Jen, Everyone here with big pieces of property seems to have utility vehicles of one sort or another. We don't. We just walk everywhere and consider it good exercise, but we can pull a cart behind the riding mower if we need to move something heavy. This evening I had to do a little hippity hop over a small non-venomous snake in the driveway, and I laughingly said to myself that I just got 30 seconds worth of aerobic exercise. Then, Tim had to act like a 6-year-old boy poking and prodding at the snake, and I kept asking why he couldn't just leave the poor little thing alone. Why does seeing a snake turn a 60-something year old man into a little boy again? Jennifer, Poor Juno---wishing your kitty a fast recovery. It wasn't exactly chilly here but it was nice---in the upper 60s before the sun came up. It warmed up fast and Tim started telling me how hot and miserable it was, and there I was thinking it was pretty nice out there. Perhaps the difference is that he is in a climate-controlled office all day long every day during the work week so he doesn't experience/perceive the heat the same way those of us who are outdoors do. Even later in the day he told me it was too hot, and it was 82 degrees. When I pointed that out, he said it must be the heat index, so I checked that and it was 84. I thought it felt really good and he didn't think that at all. Maybe his Yankee blood is betraying him...after almost 4 decades of living in TX and OK. Falling asleep would have been okay---sometimes a person just needs a good nap! Larry, Those little pop-up showers always miss us. I watch them fly by on the radar and sigh. I've given up wishing and hoping for one to hit us. We had great rainfall back on July 1st or 2nd, but then everything missed us until this week so we were really dry. It felt good to get some rain again, and I'm sure it won't last long. I still had to hand-water containers this morning. My garden is weedier than usual. I plucked a few weeds while hand-watering nearby containers this morning, but it is so snakey that weeding is risky now, and I'm not going to risk my safety by doing hard core weeding. With a garden surrounded on three sides by trees, we just have too many snakes slithering into the garden for me to let my guard down. Every time I hear a conservationist type person proclaim that timber rattlers are rare and endangered, I just roll my eyes. Here at our place, I see them more often than I see any other type of snake most years, so the timber rattler population seems plenty healthy to me in this part of the country. I'd be happy to see a lot less of them. I think Tim's next mower will be a zero-turn. I notice he is looking at them a lot nowadays, probably just waiting until the old mower finally dies. We have a dear friend who was a John Deere repairman for several decades, and he was the busiest person I've ever seen---he literally could have worked 24/7 and never, ever caught up on all the repair tickets, and he was busy year-round, not just in the traditional growing season. That made me think twice about buying a John Deere. We had a John Deere push mower and it was the absolute worst piece of garbage in the form of a mower that we've ever had---it was constantly broken and we bought a different mower to replace it after less than 2 years. Kim, That looks nice, but when I look at those in stores and compare them to where my body would be if seated on one of those in my own garden, I think I'd have to bend over so much, like it would put me higher than I needed to be if I was weeding or mulching or planting in the raised beds or, even worse, at grade level. It wouldn't be bad if I was harvesting from plants 2-3 feet above the ground. You'll have to let us know how yours works out for you. Larry, I bought all my seeds for 2020 and 2021 back in February and March since I wasn't sure what the Covid-19 supply chain issues would mean for gardeners since most seeds are grown overseas nowadays. I'm not sorry I did that either. I don't have to worry what the stores do or don't have in stock. The fall seeds always seem to show up in the stores here in August, so maybe they'll be in stock soon in the stores near you. I haven't seen any at the stores here yet, but then, with Covid-19 around, we aren't in the stores as often as usual either. Kim, I'm glad being a granny nanny is working out for all of you and for the garden too. It seems like a win-win situation. Larry, I think they'll hold until whenever you did them. I've had them pop up early like that some years, and I just throw more dirt over them and ignore them and harvest them at the usual time. You can get some big monster potatoes the longer they are left in the ground, so if you don't want them big, harvest them whenever it pleases you to do so. Lynn, Cilantro bolts once temperatures hit 85 degrees, so it likely won't be growing much in summer, especially on the south side of the house where sunlight may reflect off the house and onto the soil and heat it up more. It will grow great in spring, fall and part of winter. If you can cover up your cilantro in winter when the temperatures are dropping below 20 degrees at night, you can keep it growing for quite a while into winter, especially warm winters. A lot of folks here in southern OK sow new cilantro seeds successively every 2 or 3 weeks from fall into winter so they always have new plants coming along to give them a constant supply of cilantro. Cilantro's leaves will need some sunlight in order for photosynthesis to occur in order to fuel plant growth, but I've grown it in as little as 4 hours of morning sun, and then in shade the rest of the day in the warm season. I didn't really garden today, other than going out very early just after sunrise to water all the container plants. The hummingbirds were at the feeders before the sun came up. When I was opening the drapes and raising the blinds at the dogs' favorite window where they like to sit and watch the world go by, we had 3 hummingbirds at one feeder and 2 at another and they were busy easy and zipping around. I don't usually notice them quite that early but they seemed hungry this morning. Perhaps they are fueling up for the migration south that will begin soon. The deer were out back waiting for me to bring them deer corn this morning. They are greedy and impatient, but if I feed them deer corn, they leave the wild birds' food and the hen scratch alone for the most part, so I feed them. We found more pressure-treated lumber for the new deck, so now we have about 75% of what we need. Tomorrow we need to remember to get all the hardware. The building supply section of Home Depot really seemed reloaded today, as if maybe they'd had some good deliveries since last weekend but most of what they had gotten in seemed to be drywall, tons and tons of drywall, and interior lumber, not the pressure-treated lumber. I was so excited about finding the long-sought pressure-treated lumber that I completely forget to go outside and see what was in the garden center which, in this particular store, is at the opposite end of the building. This particular store (the next closest HD to us is 60 miles away so we don't go that far often) is small and often doesn't have a very good selection, so finding anything has been challenging this year, but I also know that finding pressure-treated lumber for yard projects is an issue nationwide. I guess everyone who's been staying home more has been busy improving their yards and gardens. Today's weather was awesome. I hope it lasts awhile. Tim was not as impressed with the weather as I was, but he works in air conditioning all day and I think he forgets how awful the August heat normally is. It is hard to believe it is August. Dawn