How about you shorten the list some and tell us which of the plants have any size on them, or a large enough to go into the landscape--I know that you have acquired many of them as small plants in the rest past--correct?

You should also eliminate plants you must know won't work, like Toyama nishiki, Peaches and Cream, Sagara nishiki, Autumn Moon.

Why don't you pick some possiblities and then we can go from there. Do you want a dwarf of semi-dwarf from your list, a dissectum, an upright? With all of those maples you must have a good idea about how they will grow and how they might do in full sun in your area.

MJH

Well, that's just it. I don't know what to want! I also don't know what "won't work" because I keep getting contradicting info. Such as, Peaches and Cream can withstand full sun...!

What I am doing this year, is potting them, and burying the pots in part sun/shade. I thought I'd experiement with some (as I learn more) moving them into different exposures. This year it wasn't an option, because with the drought (over 2 months and no rain for me) and intense heat, almost every single one dropped all their leaves. I'm getting new leaves all over the place right now, because we had a week of rain and the heat broke.

I should have mentioned the area is about 8' by 10'. Almost all of these I acquired within the last 10 months as small, 10'' to 2'' grafts. So we're talking small. But I'm willing to plant them as such (in the ground or in pots) and watch them develop.

I was thinking something tall, a medium and maybe a weeping shortie?

So, here's the first modification:

-Autumn Moon
-Peaches and Cream,
-Sagara nishiki,
-Toyama nishiki,
-Verdis (I killed that with sun once)

So see, MJH, this is the kind of advice or experience I actually need, because although I read, read, read, I'm still coming up with either too much info and too many variables, or just generic "it's a medium tree" type stuff.

Does that help you?

Christine

That helped. Sorry I don't know enough to explain much more!

Christine

Almost any of the red dissectums should be fine in this area, unless you have a LOT of light reflecting off of buildings, water, glass, etc.

I can personally say that palmatifolium, aconitifolium, tamukeyama, inaba shidare, and glowing embers are doing well for their first year here in Manassas. I'm only a little ways away from you. I'm talking full sun on the south side of my house. Basically sun from sunrise until sunset.

My Osakazuki burned a good bit after a 5 day trip out of town, but the rest have held up well. Be warned that unless you plant a dissectum before it leafs out, it will probably drop a good number of leaves. After I started using Superthrive and liquid kelp meal during planting, the trees have done much better during transplant.

Also, I'm assuming that you mean that these will be planted in ground. In containers, they'll probably be unhappy with this much sun.

Warren

Bless you! :)
I am so glad you're in my area and I am really glad to have your input. Mine, too, are sunrise to sunset full sun exposure

I usually mean in the ground, but I currently have all of them planted in containers, then in the ground. They're leafing out again after such horrible heat. I'm afraid I've lost 2 or 3, but am being patient.

For the record, my Shania, Butterfly, and 2 others are doing extremely well in full sun. I'll check their names tomorrow and let you know in case you want to give them a try.

Thanks!!!

Christine

So, here are the trees I would leave on your list just to start--crudely grouped:

Now lets group them some:
Linearlobum:
Atrolineare

Japonicum/other:
Aconitifolium
Attaryii
Green Cascade
O Taki
Palmatifolium
Psuedosieboldianum
Vitifolium

Dissectcums:
Baldsmith
Chantilly Lace
Green Mist
MidoriNoTeiboku (deeply divided)
Octopus
Red Dragon
Orangeola
Viridis
Spring Delight

Green Upright:
FJELLHEIM
Beni kawa
Arakawa
Hogyoku
Japanese Sunset
Nicholsonii
Tana
Utsu Semi
Winter Flame

Verigated:
Butterfly

Red Upright:
Burgundy Lace
Bloodgood (Local nursery, 6' tall, $79.00)
Boskoop Glory
Emperor One
Fireglow
Moonfire
Nigrum
Ogon Sarasa
Okagami
Oshio beni
Red Emperor
Trompenburg
Tsukushi Gata
Umegae
Yugure

Dwarf/Semi-Dwarf:
Pixie
Shania
Wilson's Pink Dwarf
Skeeter's Broom
Sekka Yatsubusa
Kurui Jishi
Okushimo

Other:
Azuma murasaki
Beni komachi
Kinran
Omurayama
Oregon Sunset
Sazanami
Shigarami
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For and 8-10 bed, I would do this to the list:

Japonicum/other:
O Taki
Palmatifolium
Psuedosieboldianum

Dissectcums:
Green Mist
Red Dragon
Orangeola
Spring Delight

Green Upright:
FJELLHEIM
Beni kawa
Hogyoku
Winter Flame

Red Upright:
Burgundy Lace
Bloodgood (Local nursery, 6' tall, $79.00)
Boskoop Glory
Emperor One
Nigrum
Oshio beni

Dwarf/Semi-Dwarf:
Shania
Sekka Yatsubusa

I would pick one of the japonicum/ other with the most upright habit--O'taki is my favorite and plant it near an edge so that is can grow out and over the bed, but make sure it grows up.

I would then place a dissectum near the middle, like Red Dragon or Orangeola (I have grown Orangeola in full sun exposure with good luck. Then I would place Shaina on the other side.

Scenario two: Hogyoku with Emperor I anchored with Orangeola or Spring Delight.

Scenaro three: Oshio Beni or Nigrum with Winter Flame or Fjellheim--use Sekka yatsubusa in the foreground.

Hope that helps. I would grow all your plants on for a couple of years to get some size on them, but if you must put them in the ground, go for it. They are just too small in my opinion.

I used 3 trees in your bed, but many might feel that is too many. If you are concerned use 2 and they will easily fill in the bed. I took out Butterfly, but you could use it if you want. Some years it will burn, expecially in drought, but I have grown it in full sun.

MJH