I haven't grown Limbertwigs in OH (but don't see why they wouldn't do well). I do know that a semi-dwarf tree can still get fairly large, upwards of 16 feet or more. If I had it to do all over, I would have planted ALL dwarfs on a trellis. My 4 year old semi-dwarfs (on mm111) are already too large to properly maintain without an 8' ladder and long-handled pruners. Good luck with your trees. You can probably grow a couple varieties up there that I can't grow down here. Honeycrisp, Northern Spy apples and sweet cherries come to mind.

You can grow cherries in the valley. Minnie Royal and Royal Lee require 100 and less than 300 chill hours respectively (local nurseries or Bay Laurel). Cristobalina requires 200 chills (Arboreum). All may be somewhat self fertile but greater productivity with a cross fertilizer. Experience in the valley is still quite limited but reports are only around 50 cherries per (small) trees in Phoenix. Avoid it on the commonly found Mazzard rootstock as it seems to be sensitive to Cotton Root Rot. Buy it on Colt or the new Newroot-1 (dwarfing) rootstock. You will need to provide overhead protection starting around mid-May from the sun in the summer or the leaves sunburn badly. Think understory to a primary shade tree that provides dappled light or build a pergola. Cherries are more shallow rooted than other Prunus species so they need more frequent waterings and a good thick wood chip mulch.

I ordered one each Carmine Jewel and Crimson Passion this spring and planted them in identical conditions. The Carmine Jewel is taking off. The Crimson Passion fizzled and died. Most of the literature on these suggest that the Carmine Jewel is the mor vigorous and robust of the two, growing to about 6 1/2 feet in height and is more productive than the Crimson Passion. The Crimson Passion is supposed to be sweeter, but slightly smaller and less productive. I can vouch for it being less robust. There are several more varieties in the "Romance" series of bush cherries developed by the University of Saskatchewan, but only these two have been released for export to the US. I ordered mine from www.honeyberryusa.com which seems to be a small family run nursery business. No complaints about the service, but the guarantee only gets them to your door healthy. If they die after you plant them, you're out of luck. They are propagated from cuttings, so you'll get a twig that has been rooted, and runs about 8 to 10 inches tall. If you live in an area where deer might come, you'll need to protect them. A bar of Irish Spring soap seems to do the trick.

Nice to see you check in treefrog and thanks again for the seeds,i have 2 of the goosecreeks growing now from seeds you sent and one brandyboy. Im surprised i havent read no where on this site or rthe other of anyone growing florida pink. These huge, 2 to 3 lb fruits are a gorgeous light pink. Extremely juicy, sweet and crack free, Florida Pink out-produces most plants in our garden. With very few seeds, huge production and great flavor, it is a favorite for cooking and fresh eating. Setting fruit well in hot areas, this beautiful tomato will be a fine addition to your garden. thats what laurel says about it. rowdy red is another i think will do well im growing. Named by Gary Ibsen, the seeds of this variety came to Gary from tomato breeder, Archie Millett, who crossed his favorite tomato varieties over many years to finally produce a disease resistant tomato with intense flavor. 'Clint Eastwood's Rowdy Red,' is an open-pollinated tomato (78 days to maturity). The tall, indeterminate, plant produces lots of 2-inch (6-10 oz.), deep-red, round fruits with a subtle point on it's end. Fruit has robust, 'not for sissies,' bold, tomatoey flavors, with a firm, juicy flesh, that invites snacking in the garden, cooking, canning and seed-saving. Its fruity sweetness is perfectly balanced with plenty of acidity, earthy nuances and complexity. kirk Here is a link that might be useful: laurells tomato plants