Dave,
I observed in my garden after early frosts, that the buds regenerate later, if not damaged too strong.
It occurs also sometimes, if any conifers coming from dry areas and get too much rains, flushes again.

I think we have to calculate with extreme circumstances in this case.

Zsolt

i think dave is referring to picea glauca e.g. .. like rainbows end ... that have a second flush in summer ...

rather than a weather related problem ...

and why that and conica doing it.. and not something like dent .... or pendula ...

ken

Picea glauca var. albertiana 'Conica' and it's mutations are juvenile forms, that's why these flushes twice per year...

Picea abies 'Little Gem'...second flush also.

Same principal applies?

Dave

Indeed, some Picea abies dwarf forms are making a second flush to.
But they do this only when these are growing in very good growing circumstances, otherwise they will make only one flush...

My picea glauca 'Pixie Dust' is on it's second flush. Though the second flush isn't as strong as the first, it still looks good.

If you are seeing a shoot flushing for a second time this early, then the cause is a resumption of bud-forming and elongating activity, simultaneously, after the dormant winter bud has extended to become a spring shoot. The second-flush shoot is called a summer shoot. If a summer shoot forms, it adds to the final amount of shoot growth.

If a second flush of growth occurs later in the season, after the buds have fully formed for next year's growth (usually in August), then it is just a partial elongation of the new bud. This is a "lammas shoot".This does not add to the final length of the shoot, it just makes some of it happen earlier.

I didn't want to post another photo because I have the inside track I post to much. For clarification purposes I will go ahead anyway.

Cedrus atlantica 'Aurea' was planted in the fall of 2009. A b&b conifer.

2010 it put on no new growth. In all other respects it appeared healthy. This spring it produced new growth and stoped. In the last 2 weeks it pushed again quite vigorously as you see in the photo. Is this typical for this cultivar or is this a summer shoot thing?

Thanks, pinetree30 for your informative reply.

Dave

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Dave I can't believe anyone has the audacity to say you or anyone else posts too much. What do you care, some of us really enjoy your posts. There are certain ones of you on here that as soon as I see your posts, I go directly in to read them. Maybe if those that think so would worry more about their own gardens they would have the time to create something like you have.
Cher

"Why do some conifers feel the need to second flush.."

It's a long way to the arboretum's cafeteria?

(Somebody had to use it!)

"... I have the inside track I post to much..."

No such thing. Keep posting.

tj

Dave, I certainly hope no one suggested you post too much. I think we all love all the pics. Heck, Ken has been posting machine-gun style and I love everything he's posted too. No such thing as too much posting! Although with so many pics floating around I can't promise I'll see them all. lol.

What about 'a picture is worth a thousand words' concept? I have learned an incredible amount from your pictures, Dave - not only about conifers cultivars but especially design. I had my DH look at the 'Then and Now' posting, then presented him with a new garden idea...got the go ahead with no hesitation at all (thanks to your pictures and not just from giving up...lol). So, thanks, to you and all the others who post pictures!

I have a second push I'm watching right now of that famous tan to orange color we all love so much. I'm just watching a wave go across my gardens as these 100+ days continue non-stop combined with the killer 20-30 mile an hour winds. At these temps, that wind is just sucking the life out of the needles.

It's so hard to watch and know I can't do a thing about it. Hottest and driest spring since the dust bowl.

Dave, you're not that much north of me. Are you having any temp related issues or is it not as hot there?

mark

Hi Mark,

Nothing unusual here. Typical Eastern Kansas weather around 90 give or take with humidity 60-70%. Calling for mid 90's mid-week. Typical for July which is upon us.

All conifers doing well, even P.icea engelmannii. Everything is well watered and given the most protection offered when location is in question. Sometimes a complicated issue when in doubt. I have learned by my mistakes. I still don't have all the answers, especially when somethings croaks overnight but who does among us.

Best,

Dave

My Picea glauca 'Pixie Dust' is having a second flush, and it started out a pinkish color... beginning to fade now.

-Sam

I'm betting the other half is the inside track. Its not possible for someone on this forum to state you post too much, especially when most have pics involved. You'd be shock how many folks check the board just to see posts like yours...even though they don't post.

I thought about it and have decided if they don't like it that's their problem.

As for me it's Full Speed Ahead! (Damn the Torpedoes)...David Glasgow Farrag.

I have taken hits before. bboy and I used to go at it. Been quiet for a long time. I think he finally gave up on me.

kathy_il, A high 5 to you. Keep us updated on your new garden adventure. Glad I could help.