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Comments (16)Thanks Beng....looks like I should have done a gooogle search on this topic first. I found a good explanation on cone positions, which I hope is correct, that is the opposite of my newbie observations. "The pollen cones cluster at the base of the new shoots, beneath the terminal bud. Most of the pollen cones form on the lower branches of the tree, away from the seed cones, but sometimes they form on the same shoot as the seed cones. The wind usually wonâÂÂt take pollen from the base of the tree to its upper branches, so the arrangement of seed and pollen cones encourages cross-pollination." Dave, The 'Thunderhead' is already doing both so I appreciate learning that its strong growth and needle drop are common for this cultivar. Between it and my Sequoia sempervirens I may never have to buy mulch again! Thanks for the info, Barbara...See MoreQuestion about pine reproduction
Comments (11)The specific questions you ask all have the answer "No" for practical purposes. But they are good questions, because planted trees grow well: therefore the problem is in the reproductive system. A short-cut to your basic question of "why no seedlings" can be gotten by answering the following questions from observation: 1. are there mature cones at any time of year? 2. if so, are there filled seeds in those cones? 3. do the cones open, to allow escape of the seeds? If any of these answers are "No", then there is a breakdown in the normal reproductive system. A simple experiment would be to harvest filled seeds (if any) and plant them 2 cm deep in soil from which the grass cover has been scraped away. Do this with some directly from the cone, and some that have been chilled 30 days in a refrigerator wrapped in a moist cloth or sand. Check frequently to look for germinants. Protect the seeds with metal screening. Of course you also must find out what species you have. You should post good photos of cones and seeds, if you find some, needles, and bark. This forum can help. Verify your basic observations of the absence of seedlings. I am skeptical about your statements about "dozens of decades" [really?], "not a single tree", and "totally wild". Don't accept impressions from years ago; make fresh observations to see if you can falsify your current beliefs. Find out if there are seed-eating rodents or ground birds present all over the area.You will have fun....See MorePitlolly Pine (Pitch X Loblolly Hybrid)
Comments (24)Brian: It would be nice, for tree lovers like us, to be able to get a variety of hybrid pines, but the problem is that there is no market for them that would re-pay the investment of setting up production. The one that may, at some point, be available, is loblolly X shortleaf. The idea behind this one is to develop a tree resistant to fusiform rust, which in some areas is a big problem with southern pines, including loblolly. I am not sure if there are others that will have a commercial market worth exploiting. Another factor is that there are regular pines that are very nice. One thing holding back pitlolly is eastern white pine, which is a flat out gorgeous tree, and which is very productive. It's wood, however is inferior to the southern pines, but it does find a ready market. If I didn't already have knock-dead gorgeous white pine groves, seeming to tower to heaven, at my timberland in far western MD, I might not be "messing" with loblolly, and pitlolly, so much. Northern growers also have red pine--not my favorite pine tree, but productive. The only genus that I know of where there is a great tree fancier's interest in hybrids, is the oaks. You can find all kinds of hybrids there, and I have been sampling some. But here's an idea: if there is something you really, really want--maybe the pitch X pond, you may be able to do a search and find out who, and at what university, has worked with it, and then give that person a call. He night be able to tell you if your idea is a good one, and-- you never know--someone might be willing to send you something. --spruce...See MoreScots Pine
Comments (24)Is it possible that soil conditions would have some influence on this growth habit? I see this shorter & wider form of P. sylvestris growing in the rich soils of southern Minnesota, while those growing in sandy, lower fertility soils of northern MN and WI tend to be taller and narrower. The trunks of trees growing in rich soils are noticeably wider than what you'd expect considering the height. It makes for a very picturesque tree, and there are beautiful specimens to be found in southern MN. The Scots Pine I posted is in a very rich agricultural area with excellent soils....See MoreRelated Professionals
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