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Comments (14)I cannot answer the NY question, but we priced out and nearly pulled the trigger on our back yard being done in turf. For us, it was a matter of a few issues. 1-rainfall or lack thereof was necessitating a hefty water bill just to water the grass. 2. Because of tree growth over the years, there were several areas that simply would NOT grow any longer, no matter what kind of seed/sod we put down. With our large yard, it was going to be about 14K to put down the turf. THe company we chose did NOT use the rubber tire fill. I am now forgetting what it was they used instead. This was several years ago and we failed to pull the trigger as my DH was laid off 2 days before we were to sign the contract. We are now planning a new remodel, so i'm thankful we didn't do it, but in the new plan, a small portion of the yard will be turf. One area that will be surrounded and up steps, so not ideal for getting a sprinkler system set up nor ideal for a mower. Another area that is shaded 99% of the day and hasn't grown grass in decades. In a drought ridden area, I feel the water savings outweighs the other potential issues with the turf. I know in my area, there are rebates available for replacing turf with artificial turf through the water company, but in areas where rainfall is plentiful, I doubt these are offered....See MoreBest artificial turf for dogs?
Comments (5)I've had the K9 Artificial grass in my backyard for 6 years now. I posted photos in the other thread. It's been fantastic. I have three mastiffs, and believe me in 6 years that lawn has seen a few thousand gallons of urine and more than it's share of poop and there is no smell, no "stinking mess" at all. Rake up the poo and maybe once in a while, spray it down with a hose, if there's no natural rain to rinse it. It doesn't hold in heat and the dogs haven't damaged it at all. Here is a link that might be useful: K9 Grass...See Moreseeking advice for lawn alternative sun/part sun
Comments (53)I think it's amazing this thread went on so long with no mention of St Augustine. UC Verde and all the other buffalo and prairie grasses are for full sun. Kikuyu is one of the most invasive imported pest plants short of kudzu. The others mentioned are ground covers that do not repair themselves. Dichondra will die annually from flea beetle. They wipe it out faster than you can diagnose it, but it returns from seed. Fescue, in my opinion should be formally outlawed in CA unless you live west of the 5 in San Diego and Orange counties and west of the 405 in LA. North of the 10 it can be grown on the west slopes of the coastal range, but not in the valleys. St Augustine is a real turf grass, unlike many of the alternates mentioned. It spreads to repair itself under the dog feet, is very shade tolerant, also sun tolerant, and it will crowd out other grasses when mowed at the mower's highest setting. St Aug comes as pieces of sod on a pallet. Cost is about a dollar per piece covering about 2 square feet. It spreads 10 to 15 feet per year in all directions, so if you don't cover the entire area at one time, it will take over and cover for you. St Aug takes as much water as any turf grass if you want it to remain green. If you stop watering it for more than a month, it might die completely, so it differs from other grasses in that regard. But I have revived it from beyond the grave at my my new residence in the Texas Hill Country. St Augustine is considered to be a water hog, but that is pure myth. All grasses need 1 inch of water, once a week, in the hottest heat of summer. This goes for the cool season grasses in the north and the warm season grasses in the south. In Phoenix both bermuda and St Augustine need 1 inch every 4-5 days, but in the rest of the country it only needs it once a week. This time of year in your area you should be watering 1 inch, all at once, every 2-3 weeks. The problem with fescue is it needs water 3x per week in the summer and that dries up your aquifers and lakes. Not sure why you think you have clay, but you likely don't. I don't recall any brick factories in your area, so I'm skeptical. After 12 years of moderating three lawn forums, fewer than 10 writers really had clay. Your soil might have clay like properties, but those can be fixed. Even real clay can be fixed, but you have to have a good soil test along with a good reading of the soil test before you can fix it. 9 times out of 10 people who think they have clay have no clay at all but they do have fine silt and a salt imbalance (calcium, sodium, magnesium, and potassium). You can't know what the problem is without the chemistry test. A secondary issue causing hard soil is allowing the soil to dry completely such that the beneficial microbes in the soil are depleted and unhealthy. That can be fixed by spraying the soil with any clear shampoo at a rate of 3 ounces per 1,000 square feet. Follow that with 1/2 to 1 inch of water and let it go for 3 weeks. At the same time feed the soil with an organic fertilizer like alfalfa pellets, corn meal, soybean meal, or even Milorganite. Compost and/or manure won't do the same thing as the fertilizer. The deep moisture creates a perfect environment for the microbes. The organic fertilizer feeds them. Hard soil is easy to fix. The best soil test in the US is from Logan Labs in Ohio. Yes, it's been tested against all the other labs. Get their $25 test and post the results on the Lawn Care forum and you'll get about $250 worth of free advice from people who know specifically what to apply, when, how much, how often, and where to get the stuff. If you want to see some alternate grasses in action, visit Descanso Gardens and the Huntington Library in Pasadena....See MoreCardboard Smother St. Augustine lawn
Comments (16)Just writing to provide an update. I went ahead with the cardboard and mulch. First, I emptied all my compost and several bags of chicken manure onto the grass. Then, covered it with a roll of 4ft wide cardboard. I didn't mind paying $100 for cardboard because my costs will be reimbursed by the county offering the program. Then, with the help of my father in law's truck we found some free mulch at a nursery. We thought this was great, though I wasn't satisfied with the coverage. We spread it evenly, but it was pretty thin. It took a few more weeks but I found a tree company that sold "fine" mulch by the cubic yard. I ordered a delivery of 8 yards, with a yard of compost mixed in. This spread evenly and it is covered across the yard by about 4-6 inches of fine mulch/compost mix. Closeup of the fine mulch, bricks for scale. Here in Orange County it has been very hot this summer, approaching 100 degrees today. I've been watering it a couple times a week, and raking it over once a week. I've peeked underneath and the grass does not look happy. :) It's been covered for a solid month now in the heat of summer. I pick or spray the stragglers around the edges. I am wondering, should I add some source of nitrogen to the mulch to help it decompose faster? Any suggestion? I spread some fertilizer on top of it and wet it down, but that might be paltry for the requirements. I need to plant by the end of November to get the rebate....See Moreemmarene9
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