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Krycek1984, I want to address a few points brought up in your post. First, there's really need for more personal attacks. There were enough of those already in this thread. While I sometimes disagree with iforgotitsonevermind, she certainly isn't generally ignorant, and even when she and I see things in almost totally opposite ways, I don't think she tries to be arrogant. Maybe she gets a little over excited, but don't well all. Iforgotitsonevermind's concern was not whether mimosa is currently considered an invasive pest in the area, but whether it had the potential to be in the near future. Your assurance that it "will not become an invasive species unless global warming goes crazy", falls short of convincing me. As I said above, I'm not convinced that it will ever become a problem, but your assertion, that it's not even close, doesn't convince me the other way, either, and seems to be based more on feeling than proof. Your question about who cares if you plant Bradford pears can have many answers including a number of invasive plant groups (which are concerned about their damage to the environment in many areas), neighbors (who worry about the trees falling over the property line onto their car, producing a foul smell, or making the neighborhood ugly when they fall apart at an early age), and those that want to share information they've learned from their mistakes or observations.

cjrosaphile, I was looking at OOTN just yesterday--I've been planning to shovel prune it, but of course now it's covered with buds that look like they might open. I'm trying to decide if I should give it just one more year. I hate it when they turn beautiful just when you're ready to give them the axe! If yours looks this bad too, maybe they just don't like the PNW & I should go ahead and make room for someone else. I gave Golden Buddha away, and I haven't been sorry at all. Looking at the pictures on HMF, it looks like it's just an orange rose. There's a photo of a 4-year-old mature plant---lots of blooms, but plain and orange. If that's what you're looking for, great, but it didn't work for me. I am loving Louisa Stone. She was just planted this spring, so she's not even established. She still has blooms--a little haggard looking since she has gotten practically no water in the past 2 months of record high temperatures, but the plant looks healthy and shows no sign of disease. It'll be interesting to see how she gets thru the winter. I've put in a couple other Harkness roses (Jacqueline DuPre & International Herald Tribune) and have more on order--Harkness looks like a breeder whose roses do well in my yard. I have a bunch more roses coming in the next couple of weeks (had to hit that Ashdown final sale), so anybody that's borderline might get the axe when I find out just how much I've over-bought for the space I have! Another reason to buy more roses--it pushes you to get rid of those that don't really work. Maybe I should get just a couple more...

Whew. Tough watching that, even. Can't even begin to imagine what those poor people are going through. Heartbreaking. And as always, so many good people are working to hard to help others. I didn't--I couldn't--watch it all day. But off and on. Just feel so helpless. Only thing I can think to do is donate to Red Cross (and pray). Anyone have any other good ideas or better ideas? And I'm no weather expert, but it does look like it has come far enough inland that it very likely will hit Louisiana next. Pray it lessens and miraculously more or less peters out by then. We had a pretty low-key day. Church all morning, then our daily Sudokus (lol), doing the garden walk-around with some banana peppers, a few tomatoes and 8 cucumbers, another couple pints of pickles tomorrow (even with just my 3? cucumbers, I've got 23 pints of pickles so far--guess I'll be giving away about 20 jars of pickles to someone.) And we're eating cucumbers nearly every day, too. Guess what, though; with the peppers, tomatoes and cucumbers, potatoes and onions, our grocery bill has been significantly less in the past month. Since we're eating so many of those things, well, we just don't eat as much of anything else. Very cool. (And the yummy summer squash our neighbor has brought us.) Of course, we're getting a little tired of all those particular things, but honestly. We just pretend this is all we've got to eat, so we do. And spice things up by having other wonderful main courses with them. Dawn, I was telling GDW about your sleepless night and watching the floods, as well as chiming in the assist the gardening folks. I said I expect you'll be tired and dragging for a few days with this horrible tragedy. Understandable, given Tim's occupation and your son's--and hence, your life. But I do thank you for the blackberry words and flowers of good smells. This brug has me so enchanted, I said to GDW--really, if it doesn't survive the winter (this one is one of the most hardy, to 7B), small price to pay for this amazing small tree. I wouldn't hesitate a bit to plant them every year at $20 a pop--or like you said, from seed, or cuttings. My buddy Scott is going to take some cuttings this fall and keep them in his green house for both of us. GDW agreed, and next year we think we'll put in 4-6 of them here and there. This one gets about 4 hours of full sun. from about 11 to about 3-4. I worry about it being too hot, but it seems to have been very happy. And we do have some other areas that get at least 4 hrs of sun. What a smashing plant they'd be in this big yard. Ditto with the daturas. Okay. So PM is a fact of life down here. I'm gonna skip the PM plants next year. Period and that's all there is to it. (not counting veggies) I'm gonna go with stout and sturdy and boring standbys! For sure, marigolds for one in the sun. We'll throw in tithonia the few places there's lots of sun. I'm building my new list. Laura Bush petunias, YES. Verbena bonariensis, YES. I love my herbs. . . I have 5 rosemary plants at various places in the yard, to see which of them will survive. Have my lemon balm that I love, the sage is good, the thyme and the oregano. But the beautiful thing this year were the 4 o'clocks, nicotiana, datura, and now the brug, which are all near the deck--the smell in the evenings was amazing. I'm going to have all those things all over the yard. I know you have warned me about 4 o'clocks, but oh my are they performers. Pretty and bright and perky and SMELL so good. I do have a really aggressive one in a near bed, and I pulled and whacked the heck out of it a month ago just to show it who was the boss. LOL. Love that it'll come right back, and it has. That is a GOOD thing! Had lots of plant failures this year. . . and some great successes. Like every single other year. I'm looking forward to yanking out cucumbers (which have developed some sort of fungal or bacterial thing, of course, but they're still strong and young enough that I have more coming on. So will call it quits next week. So amazing, though, that I didn't plant them from seed until first of July and they've been producing so much that I have had enough to be good for this year, and it's only the end of August. Besides, they need to leave so GDW can proceed with his veggie bed enlargement/renovation project. We all know life is so fragile and precious, but it takes the floods in Texas to bring it to our minds. Blessings to all of you.