oh wow...thanks....and I thought I was done with my list of must haves this year. A great repeating moss rose for a container.

you enabler you....

How I wish I'd never seen this. I was done with ordering more roses, period. And yet this one is so unique - a moss with fantastic rebloom. I have to go away and think about this....

Kathy, echoing what Ingrid said. Now, of course I want it.

Carla

I am going to think hard on this one as well.

Sunni, if you are going to order, may I suggest we go in on it together and split the shipping? Call or email me.

Liz

Treasure Trail shows good, if modern,breeding,
and descends from 'Dortmund' one of my favorite Kordesii, for disease resistance, and 'Condoleeza' Treasure Trails' pollen parent, which was bred from the popular 'Angel Face' Florabunda.
Mr. Barden appears to be using modern roses to produce Old Rose shapes of blooms, bringing warm salmon hues into the mix. It's a lovely photo of a rose.
Lux

Hmf says a light apple scent, but also says opinions vary on the scent. No scent would be a killer for me. Rogue valley says ff.

I will definitely contact you Liz. Shipping is hell. I have 7 roses coming now from vintage...ouch!

I ordered all four new released by Paul Barden. Live in Amelia, Virginia. Shipping for four is about $17.00 - not so bad as it could be, some vendors charge a lot more.
Marina

Marina - I agree, Rogue Valley Shipping is not as bad as others. Roses I have ordered from them have doen quite well.

I guess I should have ordered the rose as soon as I saw it, now it is sold out.

Kathy

Again, it's very hard to resist Paul's creations, especially mosses.
Marina, I'd like to compare notes on what you have because I have two of the newer ones.

Carla

Carla,
I grow quite a few of Paul Barden's creations:
1. Allegra
2. Barbara Oliva
3. Crested Damask
4. Ellen Tofflemire
5. Gallicandy (just added)
6. Golden Buddha
7. Hettie (also just ordered)
8. Jeri Jennings
9. Joyce Barden

10. Licorice Tea (on order)
11. Marianne
12. October Moon
13. Oshun
14. Rook (on order)
15. Siren's Keep (on order)
16. Treasure Trail (on order)
17. Umbra
18. Won Fang Yon
    Most of them are my recent purchases (just like the whole garden - we moved to this place exactly two years ago).
    I don't think I have enough experience with all of them, but I can comment of a few.
    Which ones do you have?
    Marina

Carla, which ones you are interested in?
I have:
Allegra, Ellen Tofflemire, Gallicandy (love this one), Marianne (love this one), Umbra (just one summer in my garden). Allegra and Ellen T. both get BS. Marianne, Umbra and Gallicandy are quite healthy.
I had Oshun and Jerri Jennings but gave them away because of BS issues. JJ is really beautiful and wonderfully fragrant, it is a pity it got so much BS for me.

Olga

"Paul, If you see this, has the BS resistance been tested in the Mid-Atlantic. "

No, it has not been tested in many regions. 'Treasure Trail'Â has been on my list of roses to introduce for a couple of years now, but it has proven especially tricky to propagate, unfortunately. That is why I have decided to release it as a Limited Edition rose as I doubt it will ever be propagated in large volumes. Now that Janet has it in her collection she might have an easier time of it than I did, so who knows.

As Janet states on the RVR page for 'Treasure Trail'Â it will likely require protection from Blackspot if that disease is an issue in your garden. Janet says it didn't Blackspot for her, but for me, it does get some. So, who knows? It will vary from region to region.

Thank you all for your interest in my roses. It is a very satisfying feeling when Rogue Valley Roses releases a new variety of mine and it sells out in 36 hours! I regret that some of these roses will only be available as Limited Edition plants. Would any of you be satisfied with purchasing grafted plants as an alternative? There is always that option.

Regards,
Paul

Paul,
Grafted sounds good for me!!! Please, do not forget about Song of the Stars (I believe, another one difficult to propagate by rooting, am I right?).
I always look forward to your new releases!!
Sincerely,
Marina

Olga, my Jeri Jennings also BSd badly for me (no spray) this summer, so fungicide is on order next year :) The blooms and the bush are awesome!

Paul ~

I would not be opposed to having grafted versions of your beautiful roses! On a rootstock that does well in The Pac NW of course. :o)

I am too late for Treasure Trail :o( I have to order Rook as well as Gallicandy, I am so happy to see Gallicandy available again. The found rose, Fa's Marbled Moss is available again too. Add that. I see the Austin Cymbeline is available also. I have wanted that for a long time. (Jeri!) Off to order. Thank goodness I belong to Heritage Roses Northwest. Discount!

Are we able to actually visit Rogue Valley and purchase plants at the site? I may make a day-trip with my mom this summer to visit. I would love to see everything in bloom.

Hi Olga, I am interested in Ellen Tofflemire and now I'm interested in a grafted Treasure Trail! I grow Marianne but it has not been mature but I'm hoping good things from her this season. That is good news about Umbra and Gallicandy also.
Marina, I have never seen Gallicandy available from RVR or I missed it. Thank you for sharing your list.
I have a baby Fara Shimbo and a young Won Fang Yon, and Jeri Jennings.

I really love Ellen Tofflemire's leaves in spring,really beautiful. Flowers are lovely too, of course. Small plant for me, only 3x3 feet after 4 years. Unfortunately this one gets a lot of spots here. Not even sure it is BS, looks a little different from regular BS, kind of cross of BS with damusk brown crud. Whatever it is, beautiful leaves look really ugly after the bloom. Leaves don't drop.
Olga

Paul, grafted is acceptable. The description and photos of this rose is so enticing - I will take it any way I can get it. Thank you so much for the efforts you put into providing new and exciting old garden roses. Keep them coming.

Olga, the Jeri Jennings you handed down to me was naked all summer. I hold out hope that with time, it will build up resistance. Naive, I know, but I really like the flower.

Marina, I think a road trip to Amelia might be in my future. Not too long ago I found myself "wandering around" HMF looking at the photos you submitted, they are wonderful. Do you allow "wandering around" in your garden? Your taste in roses seems to be similar to mine (we both like Paul's for example).

Kathy

Paul, I'd go for grafted, too on those that are hard to propagate - esp. as Marina mentions on "Song of the Stars." (A good friend of mine has been lusting after that one for quite a while.) I've gotten great roses from RVR in the past and I was lucky enough to get my order in for Treasure Trail while it was in stock. It looks to be a beautiful rose and I'm excited about adding it, and Siren's Keep to my garden this spring. Only 4 months to wait!!!!

Kathy, you are more than welcome to come any time!!! Not so much to show, but plenty to talk about :)))
Right now we are working on mulching the beds, putting down the irrigation system (WOW!!), and panicking about my order (more than 100 new roses to arrive in spring).
Happy New Year to all!!!!
Marina

You may want to check again, I think Janet may have revised available stock of 'Treasure Trail'!

Thanks for the tip - Yeah! :o) I just placed my order for Marianne, Rook, (those will be spectacular next to each other!) Treasure Trail and Fa's Marbled Moss.
I passed up Cymbeline because I already have a few in that color range.

Thanks Paul. I ordered Treasure Trail and Rook.

What would you recommend for light requirements for Rook? Will it benefit from a bit of shade?

Kathy

Kathy,

Well, most Gallicas do quite well in dappled shade if thats what you have to offer them. However, I have only ever grown this in full blazing sun, so I can only speculate on its performance in shadier locations. It did very well in full sun and the blooms, in spite of their dark coloring, did not burn at all.

Regards,
Paul

pacnwgrdngirl, you will LOVE Marianne. I put in my tiny band last year, and was rewarded with some beautiful blooms its first summer in my no-spray PNW garden. It's growing like a weed--I can't wait to see it this year. I just ordered "Crested Damask" for my collection (already have Marianne, Fara Shimbo, Golden Buddha, Jeri Jennings, and Ellen T. Oshun succumbed during the late spring freeze last year.) Other than a little mildew on Jeri and Fara, they've all been perfectly healthy so far (knock wood!) I was VERY tempted by Gallicandy--sounds like it might get really big, tho. Anyone have much experience with it?

Pacnwgrdngirl, definitely let Janet know you're interested in seeing her garden and make a trip down there while the roses are in bloom. Her view from a hilltop overlooking the Rogue Valley is tremendous and she has tons of roses growing in trees as well as every other possibility. I really enjoyed visiting her garden and plan to return again in April on a trip to Northern CA with Patriciae from GW.

Sue (hoping to see you at the February meeting of HRNW)

Almost forgot...I ordered Treasure Trail, too. And want Rook. And Paul, you make the most beautiful roses! Thank you for all your work that brings so much pleasure to us all.

Sue

I have a few of the roses mentioned too: Golden Buddha, Oshun, Marianne, et al. I would like some suggestions of some Paul Barden roses that have shown exceptional BS resistance in the Mid Altantic region. Enable me.

Robert

Robert,
Gallicandy (3 years) and Umbra (1 year) are quite healthy for me so far.
Olga

Olga,

I'll add those to my list. Thanks so much.

robert

Hey everyone don't wait too long - first batch was gone before I could make up my mind! I was able to get into line for the next batch on Wednesday - so now have a Rogue River order as well as the layaway thing at Ashdown....my daughters may try to commit me.....

Paul, if you see this I am interested in a grafted Treasure Trail. My DH won't let me order more this year!

Thanks,
Carla

FYI--I was just on the RVR site, and Treasure Trail is shown as "In Stock".

Dear Paul,

I am really confused. At first Rogue Valley said they were out of Treasure Trail. Then a few days ago they had bands available, and I placed an order, which was over $30 including shipping for one band. That's fine. I want the rose. Now I get an email from Rogue Valley, after they charged my credit card, to say they really don't have the rose in stock right now and are waiting for you to send them some plants.

As for budded - that's a big YES for me. Is this an option????? Please let me know. I'll email you.

Suzanne Horn
LadyRedLHW@aol.com

Suzanne,
Janet is pre-selling the new intros in advance of receiving stock from me, tats correct. She expects to have the plants by Jan. 12 and will start shipping sometime soon after that date, I expect. (Although you should call RVR and ask them for details.)

As for budded plants, that won't be an option until at least 2010. When I asked about this, it was simply a survey; there are no budded plants created yet. I will likely do so this coming Summer. Assuming it is successful, plants will become available as soon as Spring 2010.

Regards,
Paul

Thanks for the update, Paul! I will do my best to be patient. Looking forward to growing this lovely rose.

Thanks for all you do!

Suzanne

Is 'budded' the same as grafted?

"Is 'budded' the same as grafted?"

Yes, same thing, just a different word for it :-)