I have a gorgeous Kordes Perfecta that I found this spring at Home Depot...I adore her!

Well, Jim, I am just falling in love with the Kordes Freelander roses fron Palatine...and after seeing how well they grow for me I am planning to replace some of my old Jackson and Perkins roses with others from Palatine...I will certainly be taking more than one look at other Kordes roses. Where do you get your roses from?

I too am a fan of Kordes roses. My list of Kordes roses include: Liebeszauber, Berolina (Selfridges), Nicole, Grande Amore, Jasmina, Lions Fairytale, Cinderella Fairytale, Aprikola, Golden Gate, Moonlight, Laguna, Aloha, Alchymist, Freisinger Morgenrote, Lichtkonigin Lucia, Rugelda, Westerland, Ilse Krohn Superior, Goldstern, Rosarium Uetersen, Grand Hotel, Korsar, Iceberg, Rosenstadt Freising, Corrie (Freelander), Eliza and Lavaglut. I'm sure I will find more if I go out into the garden in search of more. I also consider Tantau's roses as favourites too. Could it be that Kordes roses are more suited to cooler climes? They seem to be more popular in colder areas of the Country. Also, they do seem to be quite disease resistant in the cool damp PNW area.

I must admit though that I love many of my roses from the U.K., France, USA, and New Zealand too.

Wouldn't be without my 3 Eutins--such willing, care-free growers, with such gorgeous--and big--bloom clusters. Only time I ever had any disease problems with them was when I tried growing them in light shade. They are back in the sun and happy again.

I also grow Valencia--not the most prolific rose, but when it blooms--oooooooh! what wonderful blooms. Large and fragrant and long-lasting. Valencia, however, does occasionally have a bit of BS, but just a bit. Come to think of it--maybe it would like a little more sun also. Hmmm.

Usually, however, I don't buy roses by breeder name. It was quite by accident I got those Kordes roses--though I wouldn't object to getting more Kordes roses, if I had any room left for more roses, that is.

Kate

Here in the Pacific Northwest Kordes and Delbard are the two top rose breedering nurseries operations outside the US. Either one produces roses that for the most part are very healthy and trouble free.

Lance

I am wondering whether Kordes roses enjoy the heat and humidity (and high BS pressure) of the south and southeast mid atlantic regions. I have several of them over which I probably would not mourn if they disappeared: Rosarium Ueterson, Aloha, Rugelda, Goldstern, Ilse Krohn Superior.

Although they are very beautiful in their spring flush, they leave much to be desired later on. RU is breathtaking in the spring, but is not nearly so healthy as many other roses I grow, and the rebloom is insignificant. Aloha, Rugelda, and Goldstern drop their leaves almost totally. IKS is just nowhere near so beautiful as White Cap; nor is she as fragrant.

Perhaps in time these roses will improve.

Robert

Well, Jim, I have a few Kordes roses and probably some I don't know are Kordes. But, Lion's Rose acquired in Spring 2007, is absolutely iron clad no spray. If it were not for midge, it would be blooming profusely now. About 4 X 4 and lightly scented, creamy white, old rose blooms.

Sangerhausen Jubilsomething something-One of the fairy tale roses, orangeish is a ditto to the above. Very short and bushy.

OTOH, Erfurt is not so disease resistant and will probably have to go by way of the shovel. Also lost Lavendar Lassie to Black Walnut pressures, I think.

I really like Kordes roses, but not all are good for my garden.

Barbara

Most of California, surprisingly, grows Kordes--'Iceberg', of course. Even the local In 'N Out Burger has a big hedge of 'Iceberg'. (It's gorgeous, by the way, even between the asphalt of a busy six lane road and an asphalt parking lot, decorating a fast-food joint, it manages to be gorgeous).

I have Helen Naude aka New Pristine, Eutin, Lion's Fairy Tale, and of course, 'Iceberg'. They are all very good here.

I think a lot of people have a lot of them but don't realize it. I have Iceberg (tree rose), Blue girl, Heaven on earth,Blue River and Valencia.

HOE, BG and BR are all some of my favorite roses. Valencia leaves a little bit to be desired but it is only it's first year so we will see.

I grow 50 or so Kordes roses. My favorites are Elmshorn, Robusta, Illusion, Fritz Nobis, Alchymist, Limelight, Rosarium Uetersen, Eutin, Lavender Lassie, Leverkusen and Westerland. They do well in my garden as I think it is similar to that of Kordes in Holstein.

I buy almost exclusively from Canada, Pickering if they have it or Hortico. H oftern is the only source. I hear that Palatine ships great roses but haven't tried them yet. I need to do that as the new ones are chosen for there disease resistance.

rjl

Rosarium Uetersen, 5 years old this year, didn't do much until this year. The leathery, glossy foliage is BS proof here. According to the ARS Encylopedia the repeat is profuse at first then intermittent therafter. My experience also.

I'm wondering what roses do well there on BS?

If you have space, Alchymist is sublime and was very cold hardly for me in central Ohio. Westerland is only semi-double but wonderfully fragrant; it does get some BS tho. I also love Erfurt, a healthy shrub with beautiful stamens on showy blooms 4 inches across. Cubana blooms and blooms; it's a 2001 shrub that really deserves to be better known; it is very BS resistant and a nice shapely plant.

Lavaglut is wonderful as a garden plant, big sprays of deep red blooms that last forever on or off the bush! Eutin is another of his floribundas that could be listed as a shrub, just a great garden plant; color is not as pretty but it is the more resistant of the two.

Caramel Fairy Tale is very showy and vigorous, and I absolutely love the color. All the Fairy Tales are big sprawling bushes here where I live now, in coastal SE Virginia. Lions Rose and Elegant Fairy Tale have more delicate colors; Brothers Grimm is more in-your-face bright. Lions is by far the most BS resistant here.

Folklore, Kordes Perfecta, Kardinal are all hybrid teas I will always love. These are older varieties so may have BS issues in some areas, they were OK in Ohio in full sun.

I don't order a lot of new roses these days, but this year I ordered Beverly, Eliza, Dark Desire, Pink Enchantment and Savannah. All are taking off with wonderful health and vigor. Um, looks like I didn't order anything that WASN'T a Kordes rose.

So Jim if you're still around, what Kordes roses are you growing?

Sadly my Kordes Dark Desire which is own root from Lowes and planted last spring is not happy in my hot & humid FL climate .It had bloomed very small blooms with no fragrance . And after the temps climbed to 100 in June , it has stopped blooming completely . The foliage was green for a few months ,but now some leaves are turning yellow .I think might be spider mites . I started spraying Bayer Advance last week.