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start over or keep trying with new dawn climber?

jenniferschmitt68

15 years ago

I planted a bare root new dawn climber 2 years ago. It has grown very fast, almost too much to keep up with. Obviously we haven't had any blooms yet (waiting the req 3 years) but the plant looks absolutely horrible and I'm wondering if I need to dig it up and start anew.

The leaves have been attacked by pests and no amount of pesticides seem to help. Right now I have long canes with no leaves or lacey diseased leaves. New growth is quickly attacked by aphids and white fly, which I don't seem to have anywhere else. It is ugly and bare and I don't know what to do. I had my heart set on thousands of pink blooms next year. Should I try some new techniques or dig it up?

FYI the plant faces east and gets a ton of morning sun.

There are many iceberg plants growing on the the communal property adjacent to this climber and they are thriving despite the lack of specific care by the gardeners. They come in every few months and cut the bushes back to nothing and within a few weeks...blooms.

jen

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
15 years ago
'New Dawn' is just not a very good rose for Southern California.

There are dozens and dozens of better choices.
jerijen
15 years ago
Hi Jen --

Hoov's absolutely correct.

There are many, many climbers which are terrific in Southern California.
New Dawn, while a great rose in the right place, is a very poor choice
for Southern California gardens.

If you'd like to give us a more specific idea of where in SoCal you're located,
we might be able to give you a list of roses to choose from.

Jeri
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Original Author
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Thanks, I think I'm in zone 9. We are near the coast and get coastal breezes but it is much hotter than, say, laguna beach or san clemente. we are near Mission Viejo. The spot I want to use faces full East and gets full sun until about 1pm.

our house is grey with white trim--if that matters! lol

jen
jerijen
15 years ago
Jennifer, it's not just coastal.
This is a poor rose for Southern California.

I have a friend whose garden fries in Thousand Oaks, and he will agree.
In fact, we just published an article, in which he said just that.

There are many wonderful Southern California roses.
This is not one of them.

If you want a climber, grow Fourth of July, or Berries and Cream, or Reve d'Or,
or Sombreuil, or Crepuscule, or Cl. Iceberg, or Secret Garden Musk Climber,
or Cornelia, or Excellenz von Schubert, or or or . . .

There are so many roses that are well-suited to this climate, it is
pointless to grow one that is ill-suited to it.

Jeri
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15 years ago
Jeri, where's the article being published? Gean
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15 years ago
In the August (yes, I KNOW you may not have received it!) issue of the HRG "Rose Letter."

Gean, email me privately, and I'll get that to you.

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kittymoonbeam
15 years ago
I got smitten with the pictures of that rose and also of Zephrine but with no winter chill, these roses are all foliage and few flowers along the coast of so. cal. I gave them at least 5 years before sending them to friends living in the mountains where it snows. I would choose another rose. I had to learn the hard way about once blooming antiques in our climate as well. I hope you can find one you like just as much.

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