Searching for five roses bare root- need advice
NewMexico123
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Krista_5NY
11 years ago
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Comments (15)Oh God! It can be frustrating to read people giving advice based on books they've read. There has been so much bad advice given on pruning over the years it is boggling to the mind and a lot of it is published and written by pedigreed specialists. Fortunately things are getting better in the information coming from places like Cornell if you search for advice for commercial growers- the stuff for the home grower tends to be quite uneven. Different cherries have different growth habits and cherries are amongst the most difficult trees to prune to the most productive shape. I struggle to achieve good productivity from a reasonably compact tree but at least the first years don't have to be complicated. It is most likely that your tree will become an open center tree even if you try to maintain it as a central leader, but if you train it originally as a central leader for the first 2 years using the ratio formula I've suggested you will have a leg up producing a productive and compact tree. If you want an open center from the get-go, just plan to cut the central leader to a scaffold after 2 years. Cherry trees usually only need 3 scaffolds to harvest the full 360 of available light. The real goal of pruning any fruit tree in my opinion is to produce a tree with the maximum amount of well lighted fruiting (small) wood and the least amount of structural (large) wood. Basically harvesting the most light with the least "infrastructure"....See MoreBare Root Roses
Comments (7)It's been many yrs since I've seen "honest to goodness" bareroot roses. About 18yrs ago one of the local nurseries had raised beds with bareroots in some sort of soil medium. I never saw any I wanted. The newest nursery in town around 6-7yrs ago had them in wine barrels full of a light soil medium. They sold them for several dollars less as actual bareroots, and then potted them up around February in the pulp pots and sold them for more. They only did that once. Now they just pot them up like most of the nurseries do anymore. Our biggest and best nursery here pots them in 5gal plastic cans, but the problem with theirs is, they fertilize with sulfate of ammonia. The plants gets big and beautiful, but you buy them and take them home, and by the end of our hot summer, they die. They used to use Osmocote, but I imagine that's just too expensive. I won't buy from them anymore. The bareroot bagged roses are coming in all over. Some people like to call them "body bags" but I don't like to. I have better luck with the bagged bareroots than with some of the potted roses. I notice that all the places that sell the bagged bareroots are carrying a LOT less that usual. Lowe's used to have tons of the baggies, and quite a lot of the peat-potted bagged ones from Certified Roses. This yr, they have maybe half the baggie ones, and only about 2 dozen peat-potted ones, and very little selection. HD only got in about 10% of their usual selection, and nothing at all exciting. I also saw some at the Rite Aid pharmacy outside on tables. They seemed to have a lot, but they were the same ones Lowe's had. Boring-boring-boring!! Now I just have to wait til the Grocery Outlet gets in the giant boxes of the baggies. One yr they had some very unusual varieties. But most of the time, they just have the same old standbys....See MoreBare Root Roses Had Leaves When I Bought Them
Comments (4)It sounds like you've done a good job of researching and tried to correct some of your mistakes. We all do things we shouldn't when we first start out (and even later when we THINK we know what to do). I did the same thing you did on my first rose - planted it first and then read about what I should have done....The fresh manure is not a good thing. If applied too thickly it can burn the roots. Make sure that you keep your rose well watered, but not too much water until your rose leafs out more fully. Clay soil retains water so don't drown your rose until the rose develops roots and foliage that will actually need that water. Try and keep the wind away from the tender new growth until it develops a root system. A wind screen can help. Usually roots and leaves develop together, but when the bareroot has been feeding on itself in the bag(instead of the nutrients in the soil), the growth will be even more susceptible to drying out. I can't tell you if your rose will survive. They can be really tough some times. In my case on my first rose I got so worried I ended up digging it back up and doing it right. That rose then lasted a good 22 years. Good luck btw.....Maryl...See MoreNeed advice on bare root
Comments (1)Absolutely, it can be done. Modern roses can be difficult, but rugosas, climbers, and other roses that are more closely related to wild varieties are not difficult at all. When DW and I bought our first home years ago, I watched her mother chop off a thumb-sized root with one three-foot cane from a once-blooming climber in her yard. We put it in water and planted it the next day. It not only flourished, but was invasive. After several years, we dug it up, but it kept coming back until all the roots were gone. Gary...See More
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