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crown princess margareta

15 years ago

I have a CPM that I planted a month ago. The blooms are heavenly, however they nod. Is CPM one of the Austins that get stiffer necks as it matures, or will they always droop?

Carol

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aliska12000
15 years ago
My new bare root ones none of the blooms drooped like one still does on another Austin, think it's Wisley now in its second year. Pat Austin did, too, last year, but straightened up this year and put out some decent growth. But I hope the blooms will be a little larger and showy and prolific next year, hope that it is busy establishing a good root system and has put out lots of healthy-looking foliage. All but one of six, not doing well at all but a couple inferior blooms and buds were still upright. I'm hoping it will bounce back in time. They can get 5' tall and quite wide; mine are nowhere near that, but pleased overall.

Mine bloomed well for newly planted (love the apricot/peach/yellow color shades) in a first flush, now making new buds which I don't expect to turn into larger blooms this year, can't say as I mind because the JB's are a problem right now. I thought they repeated steadily all summer.

Usually I attribute bloom droop to the plant being weak, hope others will know more, think a couple that may be their habit but reasonably certain not CPM.

I decided not to fertilize or treat with anything until their second year because of something I read here.
Noni Morrison
15 years ago
I have one that is about 5 yrs old now and this is the first time I have had a really drop dead gorgoeus bloom but It was worth it! Mine is in a difficult location and deserves better, but I think its root structure has finally grown big enough to support it. THe flowers this year were not nodding, and they were everything I had hoped for. Origonally this was to go on an arbor and I think finally we need to built it for it.
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Shay: David Austin catalog 2019 offered some own-roots, but I look through David Austin Catalog 2020 .. own-roots are no longer offered through them. From your pic., it's a grafted-rose. If your rose is bought from David Austin, then it's grafted-on-Dr.Huey, and this aggressive root-stock will take over if the bud-union (where the green branches come out) IS NOT BURIED at least 4 inch. below ground. When Dr.Huey takes over, you'll get Dr.Huey blooms (dark-red single-petals) rather than CPM's blooms (yellow/orange). If your roses are bought from Palatine or Hortico, then it's grafted on multiflora, another aggressive root-stock that takes over but produces tiny single-petal white flowers. Dr.Huey's typical trait is tons of blooms in 1st years, but very stingy in 3rd year and latter. My CPM is own-root so the 1st year is whitish-thin-cluster root and was very stingy the 1st year (only 1 bloom & other folks had the same complaint), but as it matures it blooms tons. If you scroll up to the top, the 2nd pic. of my CPM was taken this July 2020. I'm concerned since your bud-union is higher than the soil-level, it should be buried at least 4 inch. below ground to ensure that the root-stock won't take over when the upper branches die through the winter. I had seen roots of my 130 varieties as own-root, plus I root roses from cuttings and own-roots never look chunky & fat & woody like that. I have a few roses grafted-on-Dr.Huey and multiflora, and the grafted-on-Dr.Huey has a longer & fatter stick than multiflora. See pic. below, the bud-union should be buried 4" below soil in cold-zone so the root-stock won't take over when the upper canes die through winter. My experience with Dr.Huey-rootstock in a pot: it doesn't handle acidic rain well when that accumulates in the pot, and will break out in black spots in heavy rain.
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mexicanhat
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My two year old own root is not as noddy as last season. Some of her blooms are looking right at me through the neighboring desert willow shrub.
triple_b
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that is good to know. i have CPM growing at my parents' place and had to hold up her head with my fingers to get a proper photo of her face. Glad to hear she will get stronger in the neck as she grows because her blooms are beautiful.
canadian_rose
Original Author
15 years ago
I'm moving - so I was wondering whether it would be worthwhile to buy another one at my new place. Looks like I should!

Carol

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