Need Climber: Climbing La France or Viking Queen?
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Climbing Pink Queen?
Comments (5)Hi Frances, You are in the same boat that I am in. I have 2 'Pink Queen' climbers that I bought a few years back and after extensive research have not found any information whatsoever that such a rose even exists. I posted photos of it here on the forum and some people thought it might be 'Viking Queen' while another thought it was 'Coral Dawn'. I've checked through literature and online sources and have come up with nothing. Unlike you, I did not get mine through a reputable source. Mine were bought as body-bag bareroots at a cheapo store (bad idea and not one I'll repeat!) Unfortunately, many of the Brownell roses are virused and mine are showing signs. The first few years, however, this was an amazing rose that rewarded me with lovely, fragrant blooms and nice, shiny foliage that stayed mostly disease-free. Note that I am in zone 4 so you would have better success with regard to winter-hardiness. Mine always died back to about a foot each winter and took all summer to build up to about 7 feet but it bloomed very well. I do not find the Brownell roses (of which I grow or have grown quite a few) to be winter-hardy in my zone but it is asking a lot of a climber to be hardy here! With the exception of 'Nearly Wild', Brownell roses in zone 4 are about the same as other hybrid teas and floribundas in terms of hardiness. This rose has a very unique perfume which I could never describe but it is very pleasing and refined. The leaves were almost always spotless. Mine are on their last lives (showing signs of Rose Mosaic virus) but I can't bear to dig them up just yet. I want to savor just one more year of their loveliness. I hope yours is a clean specimen because you will love it.....even if we can't find anything on earth about it! LOL BTW, I do grow a Brownell hybrid tea rose called 'Pink Princess' and have often wondered if 'Pink Queen' would be its relative because they are of the same pink coloration and similiar shape, although of course one is a climber. Dr. Brownell did hybridize many, many roses that are now lost and many cannot even be found in literature. Its a bit frustrating. Celeste...See MoreViking Queen---in the shade-- & Cornelia
Comments (20)wow, I just saw this new followup! what a wonderful thing to be able to have so many bouquets at once!... I think the one big! advantage of a shade garden, versus a sun-struck garden that people forget is that the blooms will maintain far more of their original, beautiful form... With harsh direct Kansas sun, our flowers easily become cabbage flowers with pom-pom shapes instead of the classic hybrid tea form...My new 2010 Compassion will probably be a poofy pom-pom like all my Hybrid teas in the too-sunny backyard, LOL! That is the only reason why I do like rainy days, it keeps the sun out from the backyard and keeps the backyard perfumed. Only Gemini and Aromatherapy are the roses whose perfume are unaffected by the glaring heat generated from too much sun. Only from 6:00 a.m.to 7:45 a.m. can I enjoy all the fragrance. But perhaps Compassion will be the exception with fragrance. One never knows, each rose is very individual. I can't wait to find out for 2010! I'll be so excited when I get Compassion. I will probably be getting VQ too depending on what happens to my Frederick Mistral... If it doesn't move I'll get VQ for 2011 since I already will be having 5 climbing roses for 2010. Speaking of which, Florence how would Zephy and VQ look if they were spaced 30 feet from each other? are they different enough in color from each other to complement each other?... Maybe if you had a vase of each beside each other I can tell? If FM blooms well in its shady spot, there's another shaded spot I could put VQ at, but then it'd be just a 2 sided garage away. (VQ would be at my entryway)...See MoreLa France, a lovely pink
Comments (31)I don't wish to knock ARE at all, but one thing to keep in mind about their inventory is that at least some of the named roses were originally "rustled" as unknowns and later given identities. So it's very possible that some things they offer are not correct, even if they are great roses. I'm remembering a scientific paper comparing various Chinas, Teas, Polyanthas, Bourbons, and a few others. Quite a few of the roses investigated came from ARE, and one in particular was 'Devoniensis, Climbing'. This should be a sport of the original bush Tea, but the rose tested was found to be triploid. Looking at their website, I think they may be selling 'Souvenir de la Malmaison, Climbing' under that name. They're kinda similar, and this would explain why the rose was found to be triploid -- like 'Souvenir de la Malmaison', but unlike 'Devoniensis'. Discussion can be found under the comments for 'Devoniensis, Climbing' on HelpMeFind. :-) ~Christopher...See MoreLooking for Viking Queen
Comments (25)Summer, I have the 3x6 bed for 6 Perditas, then 6 more... And these are grafted which go 6" below dirt level and DAR own root which go to China and back... So at least 22" deep! Oiy!! Insanity hits when you are 65 and getting back issues from digging. That means you dig more. I don't get that part... :)...See Moretaoseeker
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