Viking Queen---in the shade-- & Cornelia
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Pink Climber needed to replace Cec. Brunner Santa Cruz CA
Comments (29)Some examples: On Nov 12, 2007, Kell from Northern California, CA (Zone 9b) wrote: I am not too happy with this climber. I have 2 of them. The one in the front yard I grow as a fountain rose, pruning it every winter to a few feet. It has many canes now and puts on a grand spring show. The blooms are long lasting and it takes a long time for all the roses in the cluster opens. However the repeat bloom is poor. In the back yard, I have this growing on an arbor but not for much longer. Again the blooms are sparse but here even in the spring. The plant has had powdery mildew and just looks unhappy. On Jul 8, 2010, levon1972 from Rio Rancho, NM wrote: Initially, was very happy with this rosa social climber "Jacweave". Planted on two trellises, each plant produced small, lovely, pink roses in its 1st season, then in 2nd season did the same but must say blooms did not last long from April. Now in our 3rd season we had in April a mass of new buds everywhere at first, but we pruned them after blooming and then"" Nada,Zip, Nothing" since then. On Mar 7, 2011, monniemon from Lansdale, PA wrote: Social climber is in her 3rd season, she had taken our zone 6 winters well. This rose is a very fast grower, gives beautiful blooms but did not rebloom for me at all last year. So i have decided to shovel her and to put Aloha Climber in her place. Jackson & Perkins has Social Climber listed as a repeat bloomer, they really need to change that to (occasional/once blooming)!. Iam sure that others purchased this rose and wasted 3 seasons on it to see it grow and then was very disappointed that it has no reblooming cycle. Social climber had one great show in the end of april and has had no other blooms since, not even a bud. The rose only blooms once. I have had social climber for four seasons now and have given it every opportunity to produce the 35plus petals that Jackson Perkins says it has and to rebloom as stated in the JP descripiton of this rose. I find it all to be misleading, first of all, i have seen no more that 16-20 petals on this rose, secondly, it does NOT REPEAT!!! For this reason, i will shovel and replace this rose next growing season with Aloha Climber. And there are good reviews too: Just thought I'd add my 2 cents in here. I've now had this climber for 6 years - nearly shoveled it years 2-3 as it grew, but only had a single mediocre flush in the spring, and nothing more. HOWEVER, the last 3 years, it just gets better and better. HUGE spring/early summer flush, several smaller ones during the hottest part of summer, and then a nice finale in the late summer early fall. Not much scent to mine, but it sure is pretty. On May 3, 2009, patricia4 from Beaumont, CA wrote: Absolutely love this rose! I have two climbing on the block wall fence here in Beaumont, CA where temperatures reach over a 100 degrees every summer and it sometimes snows in March. Plus we get a great deal of wind. In April and May the roses put on a magnificient show. The flowers seem to glow in the sun. Even though the repeat bloom is not as showy as in April, the roses still put on a fine show. Social Climber has been trouble free. My husband and I love to sit out in our yard and look at these beautiful roses. I am moving to Tennessee and hope to be able to grow them there. From others' comments, I'm wondering if this is a rose that really needs to be fanned strongly. If a rose blooms less as it gets older, but still very young, maybe it's growing too upright? I'm going to go on and put mine where she can be trained more horizontally than I'd planned. It could possibly be that she's a heavy feeder? Maybe she blooms less later because she needs a bunch of goodies each year. Hollie...See MoreRelatively continuous bloomers for Maryland?
Comments (25)I never got good repeat from either AWAKENING or NEW DAWN, and the fragrance was never more than moderate in strength. Most of time I couldn't smell a thing. The VIKING QUEEN I gave my MIL repeat bloomed the first year as a tiny own root band. Last year my MIL sprayed VQ once a month and the glossy, deep green foliage remained spotless. This year she hasn't sprayed at all and the gorgeous climbing rose is still clean as a whistle. The fragrance IS consistently stronger. My MIL lives in MD, USDA Zone 6a. As for which rose is more beautiful, judge for yourself. Here is an image posted by Zeffyrose on the "Your favorite climber for a pergola" thread back in June, 2010. VIKING QUEEN is on the left, and NEW DAWN is on the right....See MoreClimbing rose for a no-spray garden?
Comments (32)Hello Darci, I do not use any sprays in my garden and have had wonderful spring through frost blooms from the beautiful climbing Noisette rose, MADAME ALFRED CARRIER. I grew her in my first home and when I moved into my recent home five years ago, she was my first rose purchase. We have had terribly humid summers here in NJ (just outside of NY City) and when my other roses, both old and English, were filled with black spot and their flowers were affected too, she stood up exceptionally well. This is a blessing for me, because I am one of those people who is head-over-heels in love with this rose. I would be happy to tell you which of the English roses have done best in my no spray, organic garden. My first home (20 yrs ago) had what I now call- my test garden. Then I had over 70 roses, now in my current home, I've kept it down to approx 13...I don't have the time anymore and wanted a smaller garden. But also, I learned from my test garden, which roses look just awful in July and August under extreme humidity and thus prefer not to grow those. When the humidity has been extreme Madame Alfred Carrier did show some black spot, but nothing as bad as the others and the flower itself wasn't affected. (A big plus). She is not thornless, but her thorns are not huge, thus this is something I never had to give any thought to. I have one photo of her that captures her subtle blush shades and her sensual nodding blooms. (I posted this image yesterday, Oct.19, in the GARDEN GALLERY under- ROSES I HAVE LOVED). I hope I attached that link correctly. (I don't know how to attach that image here??? can anyone help???) Her fragrance is also subtle, yet unforgetable. Everyone who experiences her scent gasps! Perfect near a bedroom window! it seems that those who grow her also fall in love! That Viking Queen looks real nice too! Best regards, Andrea Here is a link that might be useful:...See More2012 Lopsided Lumpy Garden Part One and Little E
Comments (20)Thank you soooo much Jim, Tammy, Florence, NewGirlinNorCal... Florence I actually have to rebring in your link of Viking Queen to my friend in South Africa. She is drooling over VQ and I've already pre-sent a link to your thread a long time ago posting on how beautiful VQ is...Mine is very prolific, but the flowers are very small compared to yours so I always show your thread as to how VQ is supposed to look... VQ is not available in South Africa, so she asked for cuttings last year. So it's time for me to repost "apologizing" that my VQ doesn't look near as wonderful as it should as in yours(thrips force VQ to explode with multiple small blooms by strength of numbers instead of huge blooms like yours).... NewGirlinNorCal, we are looking forward to your photos of Anne Marie de Montravel! I loooove the rare roses! Tammy, the Anna de Diesbach is actually in the Part II thread. I was going to post her to coincide with Eluane's birthday.... Ginni77, we love having you return, as Florence says... whereas many of us are newer. I've been here for about 3 years. This is such a fantastic place for Tea and Company! And yes, you can talk about hockey all you want! :D Heck here I talk about Eluane and her dog agility, haha! Ginni, Folklore is still a relative youngster in my garden (I got him mid-May 2010) but I can already tell he's gonna be a BIG rose!!! He's own root, and his first year, I thought noooo way is he going to live up to the 8'-10' reputation that the grafted Folklore has....His first year in my garden, he was a humble 3'8" tall rose...This year, he is fast catching up with my skyscraper Lincolns lol! I have no doubt that Folklore will likely end up over 7' tall by the end of this year....See Moreserenasyh
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