Well for my region, maturity is fairly late, but before Concord. It is quite resistant to Botrytis and Powdery Mildew. Last year we had a cold summer so it barely ripened, but when it does, it is much like the Desert Flame with a sort of cherry aftertaste. Hardiness is not much tested here, but it has one Parent from Osceola Wisconsin where it can go -30 F. The vigor is pretty high and if it has one major flaw is that it tends to set too many clusters/shoot. Need to thin from four clusters to two, after bloom, or it will over crop.

june 2007 There were some that I planted in other containers first mainly in my case to keep the bunnies and other things to keep from eating them. But most of them went into the ground straight from the jug. I took so long to get the zinnias in the ground that the red star zinnia (i think it is the correct name) started blooming while it was still in the ws jug so I was getting worried. But they made the move great and are blooming thier little heads off. And you can't even tell when I cut a bunch for the house. Thanks everyone. Paula

Courtney, you are welcome...it's one of the reasons I decided to post them. It's so much more fun to show off the pretty stuff, but I myself suffer from "everyone else's garden always looks perfect." I do have oriental lilies in there, a few anyway, plus some echinacea (p. coneflowers), obedient plant (which I just pulled!), plus, the plant with the red spires (you can't hardly see them, but they are there!) is persicaria firetail. The persicaria is still pretty young, I'm hoping it's going to turn into a bushier plant. Dawn: The peonies are strictly a spring plant, but I love them! I usually have a fairly nice stand of larkspur and sometimes poppies. I ought to work them into this garden, it might be a good place for them. If nothing else, I'm going to concentrate on getting some mulch down on the paths and working on getting that grass out of there. I probably need to mulch at least with some newspaper and cotton compost in there too. I saw hummers the other day. I was so excited! I chased them around between the front and back yard but they were too quick for me! They seemed to be drawn to my vitex tree. Lisa Lisa

Thank You Joy & Judy. Judy she isn't interested in boys, make up or going out we truly are blessed. LOL She graduates this year and doesn't even want to go to prom her words were: "What a waste of money to eat crappy food and see your friends get drunk and make fools of themselves." Instead she is putting the money towards seeing Motley Crew in concert in December - 4 of them have already bought tickets 3rd row from the front and are thinking about getting a hotel and having a weekend in the city as well. LOL the child doesn't even like the music of her own generation! Motley crew are as old as me. LOL Sue :)