Reine des Violette.... Going to toss it!!??
Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
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Comments (13)Jim, I'm glad that you posted this. A few years ago I had ordered a bunch of roses (mostly gallicas and 2 DA's) from Pickering...and they ALL did great. Then, the next year, having been so impressed, I ordered a bunch of DA's from them and a few other roses, and most of them never took off. I lost probably about 23 out of 25. I thought it was that they were DAs that just didn't like my garden, but I'm now wondering whether the shipment was just bad (perhaps frozen?) I may have to try some DAs from them again. It seems too coincidental that the first two DAs did so well, and nearly all the others didn't even make it through one year. Incidentally, the two that did well, and continue to flourish, are The Alexandra Rose and Compte de Champaigne. Reine des Violettes was ordered in the "bad" order, and NEVER took off...it's dead as can be. Robert...See MoreWill Reine des Violettes Succeed Here?
Comments (35)Ingrid, I thought Marchesa was a Portland, too, but HMF, ARE and RVR all list her as HP, so who knows. Whatever she is, I do like her a lot. Buford, IâÂÂve been following your posts about the yard âÂÂdigâ and can imagine itâÂÂs a muddy mess with all these storms. Mine is a gushy nightmare even without being dug up. Thank goodness I havenâÂÂt put out my fall seeds yet or my neighbors downhill would be growing some pretty poppies and stock next year :) And evidently all the work weâÂÂve done to correct the basement flooding issue hasnâÂÂt worked! Our conditions should be about the same, so I think Marchesa would do well for you and maybe a RdV from a different source would do better, as well. Mine from ARE is the thornless one. I top dressed her with manure and mulched with pine straw when I planted her, but havenâÂÂt given her any special treatment. Her foliage has been good, and she has been a better bloomer than I expected for a first year rose with questionable rebloom reports from others. SheâÂÂs not lighting the world on fire with her prolific blooming by any means, but after her spring flush, she has given me a handful of beautiful, smelly purple blooms about once a month. I was worried about planting her in full sun, but didnâÂÂt have a part shade spot available. SheâÂÂs handled the sun just fine and maybe thatâÂÂs what is helping her to rebloom. No radiated heat in her spot like Ingrid has, though, and different soil, plenty of rainfall & humidity that IngridâÂÂs climate doesnâÂÂt give her either....See MoreRMV free Reine des Violettes!
Comments (80)that in Graham Stuart Thomas' book on antique roses he specifically mentioned that RDV was in his mind the bluest rose he had ever seen, and that it was notably more "blue" than many of the modern so-called "blue" roses. Obviously since RDV's coloring varies a lot that "blue" only shows up when it's growing in the right soils, however Thomas must have seen it because he wrote that he often wore RDV as a lapel flower to rose functions to remind people that the rose existed and that it could be an unusually "blue" rose....See MoreSome Light on Reine des Violettes
Comments (22)I have both Reine des Violettes (the reblooming one, bought from Burlington last year) and NOT Reine des Violettes (once bloomer, thorny) from many years ago. Both are in part shade and they've both survived an average zone 5 winter with most of their canes. The Not RDV obviously only blooms in May-June, but I think it blooms fine in part shade (before a deciduous oak tree nearby leafs out). It might bloom more in more sun, but I can't tell in my case. My real RdV hasn't reached blooming size yet, but I presume she'd be happier in our cold climates with more sun. I think she'd be fine in your sunnier spot if that's where you want to have her, but in my case I have other climbers that demand more sun that need the sunnier spots. I think she's a good choice for your climate in general, though she doesn't get as large as the Canadians would in your region if you really want a large climber. I'd put her in the range of 6-8' if her canes are pulled laterally, at least for Not RdV. Cynthia...See Moremalcolm_manners
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