More white roses??? You have come to the right place. I think I replace everything I toss with another white rose. I have to think you are talking MAC, Devoniensis, Pax or R'eve d'Or if you mean really tall and big or Sombreuil. For smaller fragrant whites I say Sweet Afton, Jardins des Bagatelles, Cameo Perfume, Lady Ursula and for 6-7 feet, Mme. Jules Boucher is a primo big white. If I had learnt my new camera by now I would go shoot you a bunch of white snaps. Alas..
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She had twice as many blooms this year, when the camera was down.
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As I mentioned before (in your other post), how about Mrs. Foley Hobbs, Victor Velidan, and Devoniensis??? These are Teas I can actually detect a strong fragrance from and the blooms are big and beautiful.

Carol

How about Martine Guillot 5 to 8 ft shrubby white rose not an antique continues blooming late in the season

Oh, Luanne, you knew I was going to love that. Yes, I am thinking about replacing some of my losses with white roses as well as putting some white roses where I now have Eleagnes/Ileagnus (ugly agnes).

I'm loving my two Winchester Cathedrals...they're hard workers, healthy and beautiful! Even after being moved around the garden a few times, they just spring back like they can't wait for summer. Great white flower, too.

Wow, Buford, that's a stunning rose!

Carol, will I be able to find pictures of those you just suggested somewhere on the puter?

They are on Vintages site. Mrs. Foley Hobbs is more cream colored but VV is more of a white/blush.

Carol

Here is a link that might be useful: Here's Victor

'Lamarque's are nice too....

Here is a link that might be useful: Lamarque

I'm on another computer now so I don't have an image but I'm WILD about Bolero. I think it's a Romantica. Great fragrance and such a beautiful form. It's stunning.

Lots of pretty roses here. Thank you, Carol, for that link. How pretty these. Carol, I am trying to remember how many whites you have. I know your garden is so pretty that I don't spend much time figuring it out, just ooing.

Everyone is talking about Pope John Paul II.

Noisette? Aimee Vibert? Very fragrant...big and tall...

Very good ideas here. I am making a list for mother's day, anniversary and birthday.

Darlow's Enigma, Secret Garden Musk Climber, Sir Thomas Lipton, Linnea's Rose, Prosperity, White Cap, Ilse Krohn Superior, Devoniensis, Lamarque, ...

Robert

Patricia, I decided not enough and started adding new whites a year ago. I have a mixture of some HT's, Tea's and Bourbons that are "white" but a lot of them tend more toward blush than white in reality. I'm sure I will be swearing off of whites (again) once the thrips hit. Would you like a list of the ones I have? Do you have Mary Washington? She makes a wonderful bush and blooms constantly.

Carol

How about White Ensign, 1925 McGredy.
In one year it is 4 x 5 foot, blooms non stop, nice fragrance, disease free.

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Patricia - if you want a climber, do not miss Climbing Kaiserin Auguste Victoria, much more fragrant than Ilse Krohn Sup.

George

Carol, how fragrant is Mary Washington to you?

Carla

I forget, did I mention BOLERO?

Ilse Krohn Superior is a very good white rose with good repeat frpm the second year on (mine is grafted). I loved to get White cap but couldn't find a spot for it. You already have Prosperity one of my favorites.

I had Aimet Vibert for about 5 years but we both hated this rose - here all the blooms always looked like piles of used paper tissue.

Jardins de Bagatelles, Bolero are gorgeous roses but won't do as backdrop nor are they big, tall roses.

So many beauties.

Thank you, Peplill.

Carol, I would love a list of what you have since our zones are similar.

George, thank you for the tip. Fragrance is a bonus.

Tivoli, I looked up Bolero, gorgeous.

Ceterum, you mention some real beauties. I know like Carol says when the thrips get here, I will probably regret it but..for a short period of time ---

I am putting these all on my list and I intend to get as many as I can over the next few months.

If you want a big, floriferous, fragrant, bulletproof white background rose you could hardly do better than the rugosa Sir Thomas Lipton, which right now is perfuming his whole end of the garden- and pretty much immune to everything (rated No 1 in BS resistance among all rose cultivars t5ested by T A&M).

The hybrid musk Moonlight, found rose "Cherokee Bell" (from B&B Prop, is this "California Lamarque"?), "Haywood Hall" found noisette, "Maryville Tea", "Pilarcitos". Maryville being the smallest for me kept to 5ft with pruning.

Happy hunting,

Lisa

If fragrance is not a problem what about Frau Karl Druschki? Sir Thomas Lipton is a rugosa; Blanc Double de Coubert is another.

Mary Manners did well for me in Florida and Texas, it's a white rugosa, and has a great fragrance. I think it's a sport of Sarah van Fleet.

Also, just plain Rosa rugosa alba is fantastic. Then there's always Kronprincessin Viktoria, Ducher, Moonlight, Prosperity, White Maman Cochet. I know I'm forgetting lots of the whites I grew in Texas and Florida.

--Ron

BOULE DE NEIGE (Bourbon, 1867) is at the top of my white wish list. It is supposed to be a classic Bourbon with crimson streaked buds that open to pure snowy white globular blossoms. It is reported to be Martha Stewart's favorite rose.

I've been very happy with FAIR BIANCA, ROSE-MARIE and SOMBREUIL. I'm growing the latter as a large shrub. Truly stunning. Although, to be honest, the most beautiful white rose that I've ever seen was a particularly healthy specimen of ROSA RUGOSA ALBA. Clean, classic and fragrant. The rose was covered with large single flowers that showed absolutely no thrip damage and the foliage was clean as a whistle. I saw it growing in the Cleveland Park neighborhood of Washington DC. Neither poor soil or the city pollution seemed to be fazing it. About the only negative was the positively evil thorns. The owners of the property were using it quite effectively as a security hedge.

Best wishes,

Patrick

To me there is nothing better than a pure white rose. The Tea that Carol talked about is beautiful.
Bolero does seem pretty great but not sure of the size. I'm sure you will make a smart decision.

Carla

You know I should probably have mentioned that I still have MAC. She did not seem to have been affected by my noisette disease (whatever it was). I have Prosperity (my second favorite white), Glamis Castle, Faith Whittlesey, Sombrueil, Blush Noisette and Champney's Pink Cluster, Frau Karl Dreuschki (my favorite white), SGMC and another musk climber, LaMarque, cl Devoniensis and Winchester Cathedral, Paloma Blanca, but I quit doing Rugosas when I had to start spraying for fungus and spider mites because they don't take well to spray.

I am going to order the tea's from Vintage and see what else I can figure out. There are some great suggestions here. I think I want "big." I want something that can compete with the sizes of the Crepuscules that I lost and maybe that will be Prosperity for those locations. I have seen such a humongous Prosperity at my friend's house, that it might work for me as well. Mine is grown sort of fountain like but hers is grown hulking and huge.

I am definitely going to look at all possibilities. I have written down every single one and will "gift" myself through the upcoming celebrations.

Pat, I'm starting to love my Sally Holmes. Are you interested in a single?

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Oopos, I forgot to say, I have 3 Sallies. :)

3? I want to see pics. :)

Since you mentioned Teas, I am really enjoying Mlle. de Sombreuil, though it is still young, and therefore, not yet large. I believe it is supposed to get quite big, but is not a climber like Crepuscule. The blooms are very frilly and very white. Mine is from Vintage.

I don't believe anyone's mentioned Mme. Joseph Schwartz, a sport of Duchesse de Brabant. I have both as bands and the Madame is already quite a bit larger. A very pretty rose.

Ingrid

If you really want a rose that is everyblooming and wonderful, try Mary Washington. I can't smell noisettes, so there isn't much fragrance there to me, but this one has hundreds of little white flowers covering her all season long. Most beautifully shaped bush of a rose that I've got.
And big.
This one tops Prosperity by about a thousand percent. Prosperity blooms in big flushes, Mary Washington is nonstop.
I've got lots of white roses, but I think this one is my favorite even without the fragrance.

If you don't mind a peachy pinky center, Hettie, a Paul Barden rose, is gorgeous. She died to the ground in my zone but seems to be springing back, but it may have impacted her longevity and vigor, regret I didn't give her winter protection.

Also, I adore Madame Plantier. HMF doesn't tell me enough about it like whether it repeats. You can see photos of both of them there.

Both would be short climbers or make a nice, large shrub.

Hettie has shiny leaves which might be good for your zone to resist some of the nuisances some of the other roses incur. From bands, she quickly put out a lot of vigorous, new growth last year and blooms in clusters.

I agree with Carrie, Mary Washington is a wonderful rose in every way. I can detect a sweet fragrance from her blooms, but Carrie can smell Tea's and I can't so I guess I got the Noisette nose and she got the Tea nose :-)

Carol

They all look just like yours, but are in 3 different locations in the garden.

How about Blanc Double de Coubert?

Do you like Spice? It blooms almost nonstop here and I love the grapefruit fragrance.

So you grow your SH as shrubs then rather than on a trellis or arbor?

Spice is a wonderful rose. I also have the Bermuda mystery roses Trinity and Maitland White. Both are beautiful.

Sandy

Gean, I do grow Sally as shrubs. I had 2 of them on either side of our former, very large brick mail box area, but became a lot of work to keep them cut back, so we moved them to other areas of the garden.

Fortunately, we moved them. Our mail box was hit by who we believe to be disgruntled football fan who had too much to drink or lost a lot of money the night LSU beat Alabama. The bricks were strewn all over the street, in our yard and we lost 3 crape myrtles that were about 15 years old.

Try Louis D'arzens. He's beautiful.

Aureliajulia, Could you please tell me where to find pictures of Louis? HMF didn't help me.

Carla