What about 'Lorraine Lee' and other Alister Clark's Roses?
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Scorcher, Black Boy & other Alister Clark LCLs: anyone grow them?
Comments (6)Sherry Good to know that Clark is being grown in the US.Sunny South is certainly not a tall bush in my garden, I think it's one of his less successful roses. Lorraine Lee is fairly slow to establish, here it has the virtue of flowering through winter, mine is in bud now. That might not be an advantage in Florida. My favourite Clarks are Cicely Lascelles (vivid pink, huge, flowers right through the season), Marjorie Palmer (small, very free blooming all year)and if you want leaves all year see if you can get Jessie Clark or Milkmaid (both once flowerers but mine are in flower for three months, don't lose their leaves, don't get BS). Another beauty is Squatter's Dream (I know, you think the name is funny, squatters are a kind of unique group in Australia's history, something like settlers or ranchers)blooms all year, stays small, looks a lot like Mrs Oakley Fisher. When you read "disease resistant" it's probably talking about Melbourne (where I live) which once was known for it's cool wet winters and dodgy summers. Recently we've had hot, dry summers and dry winters, humidity is rarely a problem. Go for more Clarks, Regards Sue...See MoreAlister Clark roses
Comments (24)One of the things I like most about Salet is its hardiness. That won't be a relevant consideration for you, but for me the canes suffer almost no winterkill at all. My bush grows in the dappled shade of a flowering cherry, with the early morning sun blocked by an evergreen azalea. It also is infected with a rose mosaic virus (I bought it in the late 80's from Roses of Yesterday & Today). Consequently it doesn't grow as vigorously as Salet is capable of growing, yet even so after being transplanted from the Philadelphia area to the Boston area (a 6 hour superhighway drive further to the northeast) four years ago it now is approx. 3.5' high on four canes. So far it puts out one new cane per year, at the beginning of the growth flush following its late spring blooming. It's remontant, but not a strong repeater, with a big bloom in late spring and little thereafter. (I believe when it's growing in a better location it blooms very occasionally during the summer, and then blooms a bit more heavily in the autumn.) It's a moss rose that isn't heavily mossed, but very few of the mosses are remontant at all, so that makes it a rarity. I also believe it's regarded as one of the most dependable of the reblooming moss roses. The leaves are somewhat coarse in appearance, yet thin, with a healthy, flat, medium green color. (My soil is acidic and Rosa multiflora is an invasive weed here.) The leaves are notably hairy to the touch, although the hairs aren't really visible. The canes are heavily prickled, but the vast majority of the prickles are insubstantial. The prickles remind me of those on the cane of a rugosa rose, but they're less substantial than that. The flowers are nicely fragrant (as is the moss), about 3" wide, very double, and a medium pink color with a hint of lavender. In substance the petals are also more thin than thick. I regard Salet as one of the most satisfying roses I grow. Despite its less than perfect present location (& the horrific, droughty subsoil it grew in when it was in the Philadelphia area, where it barely survived, but did survive for almost 20 years) and its virus infection, it doesn't die back. The leaves get some crud in the summer (probably black spot, but the symptoms are a bit atypical) and it defoliates (about 70%) unless I spray it, but during the summer it also gets sprayed by lawn sprinklers for 30 mins. every morning at about 4:30 am. I wish I could stop that, but I can't! It puts up with much less than ideal circumstances and still gives satisfying flowers with almost no winterkill. So far the bush grows in a very shapely manner, with the longer canes bending into a gentle arch as the flowers come into bloom. One fault it does have is that the flowers struggle to open in cool wet weather, but that's not unusual for an antique rose with heavily doubled flowers. Here's the HelpMeFind entry for Salet....See MoreAlister Clark roses
Comments (12)Hi Harold, I am sorry I never replied to your very nice reply. I didn't realised that I did this, please forgive me. Ray goes for his first scan since he started the Radiation and Chemotherapy treatment, on Tuesday next week. Will then see the specialist doctor on the Thursday. I am glad you like The Rose Exchange Forum. There is another Australian site you might be interested in, it is called 'Rose Talk'. It comes up as this on google. It has a portal. The Argosy bloom got more beautiful. Here is aother photo I took of that bloom, which is a while back now. Agrosy...See MoreWhat roses did you plant this winter??
Comments (33)Great to hear from you again Vivienne. Glad to see you are finding more places for roses :-) Also pleased to hear that you are recovering Sandie. I have bought far too many roses this year (at least DH keeps telling me) and I still have 3 Jubilee Celebrations in a pot because I haven't decided on where to put them. Yolande D'Aragon - is doing well, has had two small flowers, no way was I going to pull them off. But due to this head cold I can't smell a thing. William Shakespeare 2000 x 6 Grace x 6 Queen Mother x 3 Jubilee Celbration x 6 Heidesommer x 3 Crown Princess Margaretha Parole - thanks to Fran and her enthusiasm. It has had two flowers and they are stunning. SDLM - this is my third. I love this rose. Renae x 2 Mrs Herbert Stevens x 2 - the first two didn't break dormancy so I bought a replacement pair from Perrott's in Brisbane. I couldn't wait another year. I think that is about it. WS2000 looks like it might live up to its reputation but I don't know if I will be vigilant enough with the spraying. So I'll see how it goes. So far Parole is a stand out. Glad to hear you're all enjoying your new purchases. Anne, I think I might have to go with the name tags soon. It's taking me longer and longer to remember the name of each rose as I go around the garden. Next year I'm going to expand the beds and get more Teas....See Moreodyssey3
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