Ooo, that's pretty. I have a band potted up from, umm, someone--hasn't flowered yet. I don't recall my old one from either Chamblees or ARE having so many petals, either.

Got my clone from a lady and the bush is close to 100 years old. Were several home places around it that still had it also. Love the smell of the blooms.

I can see why Doug Seidel thought Mrs. Keayes "Faded Pink MOnthly" was like a taller version of this.

So lovely.

Jeri

There were several mentions on other threads of the clone Vintage sells of 'Marie Pavie' so I thought I'd post some pics.

I think it's lovely, too, Jeri. So is the FPM; thank you for posting your picture of it.

Beerhog, 100 year old bush? I would love to see that!

Bluegirl, thanks. I think it's pretty too. The ARE one is great also. That rose is a bloom machine, for sure.

I like my Vintage clone best of all. It's an outstanding rose to get if you don't have one. I ordered Lullaby (poly) and have never seen it but it sounds very good and I do love polys.

I was debating about 'Marie Pavie' but when I realized this might be my last chance to get the prettier Vintage clone, I figured I'd better just order it and pass it on to my former roommate at her new house if I didn't decide to plant it here. Now I think I know where I want to put it, but to be safe, I'm going to "make a few more" from cuttings as it grows on. I don't know if any other nurseries grow this form of it. Does anyone else know?

:-)

~Christopher

Does anyone know if rogue valley's clone and vintage's is the same?

Alana, I don't personally know. I think the only way you really know is to grow them both and see. Or maybe call Rogue Valley and ask them where they got theirs. The Vintage catalog says that their MP was "found by (Phillip) Robinson." I wish I knew the history behind that.

When I read in the Vintage catalog that theirs had more petals than some of the others, I ordered it just because I wanted to see for myself the difference. I do know it is different than the other MP I grew.

Let us know if you find out!

I have the Rogue Valley MP, and to me it looks identical to the Vintage one. The flowers are fully double.

That's great to know. I'd hate to think no one else was carrying it.

Dang and it is not available. My first of many tears with Vintage's news. I read this and rushed to add it to my cart. Only the beginning

Thank you, Gean, for the great picture. Yes, the petals are more packed and refined. Great clone! I like how Marie Pavie perfumes my garden.

Huh, the one I have is from Burling. Maybe it's the same. Lovely plant.

Ilovemyroses: Ha! I tried to get Vintage's too. Haven't gotten any response from my 1rst e-mailed order, don't know what chance I have for another. They're probably thinking: "Dang, if all these GardenWeb guys had ordered like this BEFORE.... "
Oh, well. I hope they enjoy some peace when they retire from retail sales. (Then I hope they re-open after they're rested up :D)

thanks--I was hoping Burling got it from them. And it's very helpful that you posted the provenance of many nursery roses. I'm new to HMF, but I will get off my butt (or rather, get ON it) & type up my garden list for sharing.

J. L. Hudson seeds is a FANTASTIC source for open-pollinated, non-patented seed, many varieties very old & of great cultural importance This rose situation reminds me of their logo (uncopyrighted) :

A Steller's jay flying with an acorn & the words:
"Preservation through Dissemination"

Beautiful pics! Looks like one I need to add to my wish list!