best climate in the U.S. for Roses???
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Best Austin English Roses for PNW climate
Comments (10)I'll echo others' comments, I think most Austins do fairly well here. The only one that did horribly was Ludlow's Castle. (It's a dog-I've never heard anyone praise that rose!) An aside-Many of the soft colored roses are myrrh scented (e.g. Ambridge Rose) which is a love it or hate it scent for some people (it unfortunately makes me feel sick) so you might try to smell one before you fill a garden with Austins. That said, for me, here are the best I've grown (all have good disease resistance no spray, I tolerate some blackspot as long as they don't defoliate and 2/3 of leaves look okay) Objective Best: Molineux and William Shakespeare 2000. Subjective Best (because I prefer the fragrance/color/larger flowers:) Pat Austin, Jude the Obscure, Golden Celebration, The Prince. Molineux: always in bloom, excellent disease resistance manageable, bushy shrub (not an octopus/wannabe climber) individual blooms are short-lived/not a good cut flower light musky/tea fragrance William Shakespeare 2000: looooong-lasting flowers on bush; good cut flower strong damask "true rose" fragrance wider than tall/spreading Pat Austin: dazzling large copper colored flowers with medium fruity tea scent arching shrub, poor cut flower Jude the Obscure: excellent disease resistance romantic soft colors, strong grapefruit based fragrance poor repeat bloomer, ok cut flower IF cut as bud opens octopus/wannabe climber (it sends out waving 8'+ tall canes by end season) Golden Celebration: large blooms, strong fruity fragrance, good cut flower arching growth more blackspot problems than others I've listed The Prince deepest color, damask/old rose fragrance, good cut flower manageable bushy growth, Hope that helps! Dawn...See MoreBest orange-color rose for coastal San Diego climate
Comments (11)Thank you so much, Hoovb. I am truly grateful. Does your EDI fades to pink? What else, on your opinion, would look good between HC and Strike it Rich? Also, the flower bed gets all day hot-hot sun. I thought about Chihuly but I already have it planted in the opposite flower bed. It is really important about the mildew and rust resistance. After years of trying...a week ago I had to get rid of Gypsy and another rose that were truly complementing my Julia C. So now she is looking for new friends too. I spent days on Internet trying to decideðÂÂÂ. Please help! Overall, what would be of your rust and mildew-free roses? I am 5 miles from the ocean. Thanks...See MoreBest area in the U.S. to grow roses
Comments (24)I'm originally from Seattle and the SF Bay Area, then spent 18 years in Santa Fe. When I decided it was time to leave Santa Fe, I could have gone anywhere. I chose Roanoke, VA because I can grow anything and water is not an issue. The economy is stable, the politics are down the middle, the cost of living/housing is excellent, the falls are New England, spring is long and glorious. It's clean, green and beautiful, people are kind and well-mannered, the pace is gracious, and there are a surprisingly large number of interesting people tucked away here. As to roses, I can grow gallicas and teas, rugosas and noisettes and everything in between. Yes, there is blackspot for those roses prone to it, but not all roses succumb, and some years are worse than others. I don't spray, so I just live with it. RRD is an issue anywhere east of the Mississippi. I think northern CA might be the most perfect place for the greatest number of roses, but there are too many other negatives, at least for me. But it depends on who you are, what you want besides roses....See MoreBest rose standards for N. Calif 9b climate
Comments (11)I am certainly outside of your area, and I am not sure what kind of availability you have there. Your selections may be somewhat limited to what you can find locally. But I have greatly appreciated my Austin standards more than some of the HTs, because they are bushier, and the shape is more gentle. This varies of course. If you have a chance to look at the bush forms before selecting, I would suggest doings so before choosing. One of my HT standards has very straight, stiff branches, which sometimes looks severe, instead of a gentle round shape. Iceberg for example makes a brilliant standard rose. My favorite standard is Winchester Cathedral, but it is not among the most fragrant of the Austins. There is little scent. No matter, it is a lovely shape and the blooms are often a surprise, occasionally streaked with pink. I rescued it from a bargain bin at the end of the sale season, and it has certainly repaid me handsomely....See Morewithjoy
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