Drat, sorry, that should read flowers of dark red, blue, misex of red/orange, mixes of red/white and a white rose... Not looking for a flower that has all of those hues in one.

Also, the indentation apparently was removed and I didn't notice that after previewing. My apologies.

I can't comment on your choice of roses but I can tell you that Palatine ships wonderful healthy roses.

Valerie

I agree - huge bareroots and wonderful customer service. I live in Texas so cant comment on hardiness. The only one of your list that I have is Don Juan and it is a wonderful rose - blooms well for me but it can get blackspot, which is not a problem as I do spray.
Judith

Syrinth, the flower shape in your link is usually just called "high-center", but terms such as "tea shape", "hybrid-Tea form", "exhibition type" and"pointed" are also used. Basically, it's the classic shape of modern Hybrid Tea roses.

Most bush Hybrid Teas can be grown satisfactorily in US zone 5a, Most must be pruned back to almost ground level, some are a little more cold-hardy than that and a few varieties will have a hard time surviving. One way to improve your chances of getting cold-hardy Hybrid Teas is to stick with those bred by Kordes, especially those bred since 2002.

Climbing roses are a different matter. They usually don't make useful plants unless they are cold-hardy almost to the tips of their canes (just my opinion). I can tell you for certain that Don Juan won't meet this requirement. You might look over the list of especially hardy roses at the Canadian Rose Society site, linked below.

Pickeringnurseries.com. and Roguevalleyroses.com are two other noteworthy Canadian mail order sources for roses.

Here is a link that might be useful: Canadian Rose Society

Thanks a lot for the help so far. I'm really crushed about the Don Juan though :(

Been scanning through those places and found a few that I like, hopefully I'll be able to find at least one dark red rose that will survive here.

My Don Juan was thrown in 10 years ago and basically neglected until I got INTO roses. I barely watered him. He is still alive with several great flushes thoughout the season. I actually crowned him with a trellis 2 years ago and he is as beautiful as ever, basking in the new attention I give him.
susan

You picked a lovely group of roses, syrinth. I've had Paradise for years and it winters very well for me. I just got Dream Come True last spring so I can't comment on hardiness but I can tell you it's a gorgeous rose! As for Palatine's roses, I've always gotten superior quality plants and service from them and have never heard of anyone who didn't get the same. If you have any questions at all give them a call. Rahel is their customer service person and she is always very helpful.

Canadian Zone 5a is equivalent to US Zone 4a, which means Ottawa is very cold. Hybrid Teas can be grown, but their bud unions must be planted deeply, 4" give or take a little.

There will be no canes left after winter, but that's okay-- winter will decide where you make your pruning cuts for you, and any over-wintering diseases will be pruned away at the same time.

Palatines's rose are as well grown as can be bought.

However, if you are looking for rose to landscape with, HTs may not be your best choice though the flower form is beautiful-- they are largely sticks with blooms on the end in these parts. Other rose types might be better for a garden statement.

You might find some of the articles on the link useful, Syrinth, in spite of their dealing largely with growing in Can 6b, in the London, ON, area. There are rose-cane hardiness reports from areas as cold as yours. You might also ask your local rose society.

Steve

Here is a link that might be useful: WSRS Articles Page

I would skip 'Blue Moon' as a climber--climbing sports of HTs are usually not as good as the original and climbing roses that are not specifically hardy are going to be tough in your area. Lavenders in general are less cold hardy.

Now, I'm curious... What does no canes mean for me exactly? I'm assuming that means that climbers are going to be mostly useless since they'll need to restart every spring, and the comment on landscaping has me slightly confused. How will the lack of canes affect Hybrid Teas? My grandmother always prunes the roses down to the tough brown wood near the base of the plant and they always grow about 4 feet high each summer. *I have no idea what species they are*

I apologize if I'm asking a stupid question, I'm trying google searching for information but I keep getting stuff that I'm not quite looking for.

Syrinth,

You are not asking stupid questions.

Most roses will die to the ground after winter. They are not cane hardy. That includes most climbers. Wm. Baffim will be okay. Polstjarnan will overwhelm.

Follow your grandmother.

When I refer to landscape roses, I am thinking of those that look good whether or not in bloom, like , The Fairy or Bonica . They too will likely need pruning come spring, but they will make fabulous bushes in summer.

Steve.

Mike Rivers is spot on for your definition of the spiral shape you desire. High centered, exhibition form, etc...will get you what you want.
Palatine has the best bareroot roses on the North American continent at the present time in my opinion. They offer mostly Kordes roses which are known for their superiour toughness to weather conditions and temperature extremes compared to most other breeders of hybrid tea roses. I grow in Northwest Missouri and do not winter protect specifically. I rely on Ma Nature and the leaves that fall from a couple of big trees on my property to gather around the base of the bushes and that seems to insulate mine well enough. I really don't lose many if any at all during the winter even though I grow a couple that are "notoriously winter tender". St. Patrick, Marilyn Monroe, Color Magic, etc.. are some that supposedly can't survive my winters, yet I have grown these for five years or more and have not lost any of them. I do generally have to prune to almost ground level in the spring especially on St. Patrick, but they always come roaring back and within a couple of months you could never tell they were pruned so low.
The main thing is to make sure your roses are HEALTHY and not stressed going into winter to give them the best chance to survive winter.
John

I planted Palatine grafted HT's last year and from my own laziness...didn't cover them last fall. I took a look a couple days ago and I don't think any of them made it-all the canes are black (BUT...gave me a good reason to put in new order at Palatines **grinss**) I'm sure if I had given them winter protection they would have pulled through since they grew so well last year. Then again...we don't get much snow cover here and had wind chills of -40F for several days in a row during the month of January. IMO...you can't go wrong with Palatine roses.

potpourri59,

Black canes are no guarantee you have lost the roses, only the canes. If you planted the bud union 2-4" below grade, there is a better than average chance they will grow new canes from below grade. Mine do each spring, and except for some leaves, my roses receive no protection other than the deep planting, so take heart-- you're in Zone 5 (though I'm told, there's Zone 5, and then, there's Zone 5, if you know what I mean-- some zones are harsher than others).

Steve

Well Steve....(dont' throw a shovel at me lolol) but planting the bud union below the soil surface is one thing I didn't do. I had in all good faith intended to winter cover those poor things but kept putting it off and off...and..well...they look pretty dead to me. BUT...I will give them a chance to see if something resembling a live shoot emerges.

On your next set dig the deeper hole and they'll all survive without any protection. I know mine do. I do have some planted at ground level and those usually survive too although it's harder to tell because the graft gets woody and you can't see whether it will grow until it does.

As for your question syrinth, Palatine is my favorite nursery to get roses from. As for a climber, your choices are a bit limited, but take a look at Quadra. I bought it last year from them and it is supposed to be a very good hardy climber. Countess Sonja is a lovely pink rose with very good form that lasts a long time either cut or on the bush. The only drawback is a lack of scent.

For reds, look into Veteran's Honor, Ingrid Bergman, or Taboo (Barkarole). For blues my favorite is Blue River which Palatine had last year but isn't listed this year.