I'm encouraged by the fact that we at least have one new mail-order nursery, A Reverence for Roses. I sincerely hope they can manage to keep their doors open in these troubled times with a decrease in interest in roses and rapid climate changes.

Thanks for posting, I look forward to browsing the Reverence website.

Now THAT’S an impressive band! It looks great! Lisa

Beautiful! It makes it semi-reasonable to order just one rose. Please update us with its growth. : )

Looks like a great nursery to support. I'm only one hour away so it's worth a drive. But I have no place left to put a rose, maybe unless it's a mini that I can tuck under a bigger but bare-legged rose bush.

Here is a link for calculated changes in USDA hardiness zones in the next 30 years:

https://nca2014.globalchange.gov/report/appendices/climate-science-supplement/graphics/shifts-plant-hardiness-zones

I’ve ordered quite a few roses from them, across 3 different orders, and have been very pleased with all their roses. Growing like gangbusters! :-)

Very interesting info, Cedemas!

Agree. Thank you Cedemas.

I was just thinking--if I am still around in 30 years, will any of my not-China roses be alive? I sure do hope so. Maybe Mrs. B. R. Cant. Not sure about any of my Bourbons or HPs.

I was inspired by our recent posts about supporting nurseries, so placed a couple orders (birthday$) and I’m very excited about new rose babies! Thank you vesfl and Cedemas for all your shared research and knowledge; I’m doing all Chinas & teas this time. :-)

Happy Birthday, Perma! What did you order? I love that place (Reverence for Roses) but it seems to me that they are out of stock of about 95% of what they carry and it's hard to make a decent order with what little they do have.

Cedemas, when I ordered a tea rose for my friend I did it by phone because it was my first order from them. The owner is a very nice gentleman and told me that they are getting their second greenhouse which will allow them to propagate more cuttings. This is a very encouraging news.

I am glad they have some roses that can also be grown in cooler climates. So, Krista, I hope you find interesting selections.

Perma, happy birthday indeed. And, like Cedemas, I'm curious what roses you ordered.

They’ve been wonderful...always quick to answer my many questions. I also ordered from Rose Petals, taking advantage of her sale roses. I ordered Creekside Manor Tea, Edith Perry, General Schlablinkline, Licorice Tea, Baronne Henriette de Snoy, and one modern, Casino. :-)

Two orders ago, I said I was done...so I Reeeeally have to stop now. In a few years you won’t be able to see my house & the city will be leaving me neon yellow love notes.

Perma, Happy Birthday !!!

Great choices of roses :)

My first bloom today on all the roses

Perry Edith

Above 2 is Souv de Umi

Below is RJG

This bloom yesterday or today. Bought it from Rose Petals. I want GS so bad. Let me know how it grows for you, Perma ;)

And I also picked up vases today from Publix for 99 cents.

Jin

Those little vases are adorable! And the rose blooms look amazing—you are giving them so much love, I can tell!

I will let you know about the General...I am hopeful about his coloring, because he will be getting a primo spot in the garden.

I was sneaky. Those vases were tiny. Just perfect for roses like mine. I saw it at top shelf hidden but you can see them in case ( refrigerated) with roses going for $25 and above. So, I asked if they are being sold as vase only. They called a manager who explain how the roses die but they kept the vases. He said it will $0.99 each if I want it. I grab all 4. Too cute :)

Jin

I’ve been using those little individual maple syrup bottles from Cracker Barrel, a good size, too, but I love the colors of those! I may check my Publix..;-)

Now I feel bad for everyone outside the SE who doesn't know the joy of Publix.

I am sorry JC. It was just luck Bec they don't sell vases actually. But I was looking for colours ones. Now, I regret getting a taller ones. Maybe, your grocery stores who sells flowers and roses might have them. Look at their sinks and shelves above. You might spot a few or better still just asked the managers . I am going to pick up a few more heading that way within an hour for taller ones. I don't have any vases this is my first colours I got.

Jin

Sorry, Jin, I did not make any sense.

We DO have Publix here in Tennessee. I just feel bad for everyone who doesn't have access to this wonderful grocery store!

KC, you are funny :)

Here is how they hide it.

So, I bought 3 more just a little bigger. They even have huge ones for $5.

Below is $1.99 each

Jin

Sorry, Vestfl, don't mean to hijacked your thread .

Jin

Happy Birthday Perma!

I love Reverence for Roses and would love to buy everything from them but they rarely have what I'm looking for in stock. On the other hand, if they get too big, the quality could go down.

Thank you, lavenderlace, and all who wished me a happy birthday! I have treated myself to a rose garden to celebrate my 50th, and couldn’t be more excited to see it all come together.

I think now that I’ve amassed this number of roses, it’s going to get harder to find things I don’t have or that I still want. But they are working very hard it sounds like, to add a new greenhouse and I imagine we‘ll hear about more stock once they get that going. And from what I’ve seen so far, I think they are very quality-minded and sure hope they stay that way. :-)

Belated happy birthday Perma! Exactly how many roses do you have now?

"I love Reverence for Roses and would love to buy everything from them but they rarely have what I'm looking for in stock. On the other hand, if they get too big, the quality could go down."

lavenderlacezone8, please see my response to cedemas above. They are adding one more greenhouse that would make it possible for them to make more propagations. I highly doubt that their quality will go down, only that they will have more roses available. It's one of those wonderful niche nurseries that, based on my experience with them, put the quality of their roses and the need of their customers well above everything else. You might want to contact A Reverence for Roses if there are some roses in their catalog you are interested to get. All such nurseries are saving many roses from extinction thanks to their dedication in raising them as well as our desire to grow them. Thanks for checking about it.

Thanks vestl! I think that I've made about a half dozen orders and all have been great so I hope that I didn't give the wrong impression about them. I had actually planned to buy exclusively from them this year but it just wasn't possible. Sounds like it could be soon though, thanks again for the update!

I just bought this month from Rose Petals. I did look at Reverance but they were not restock althoni did get an email from them. I am still waiting for them to stock up but I I'll definitely will order. Their plants are huge and I believe it was since last year, I see out of stock when most of the roses when half sale like $8.

Jin

Vapovac, I don’t really know! (I’m kind of afraid to count!) I’m guessing around 30-35 now, based on my order histories. (Sheepishly slinking off to see if it’s really more than that...)

I'm feeling you, Perma! I was shocked to see my total when I listed them on HMF and it wasn't even including duplicates! This is year two, so probably it will be less next year...... but who am I kidding? LOL! My only limit is money and ability to clear trees and brush for beds. I can always exchange cuttings etc, but clearing land is difficult since I'm only one person and I won't use a chainsaw.

I’m with you on the money, Vaporvac—-it’s a little frightening to think of what might be sitting in my backyard if money was no object! I am such a thrifty person, and this is my only guilty pleasure, since I usually only buy things on clearance, including plants, lol! But I know that this so much more than just a “plant“ with these roses...it’s history, beauty, intrigue, culture, and tradition. I have asked myself, “Am I telling myself all this to make me feel better about buying this many roses?” And I know the answer is no, because I feel deeply in my heart that this is important, and feel privileged to be able to invest in and be a part of this kind of preservation. :-)

Perma, you've echoed my thoughts (and said it so very well). The old roses give me a special feeling, and I think the word reverence says it very well. They also engender a feeling of excitement that I can't explain, although I'm sure you all understand what I mean. There is a special thrill they give us as a gift for loving them, and that has not faded or become stale over the years and decades that they've enriched my life.

cedemas, anyone who doesn't believe in global warming needs only to look at your link to the climate maps. That says it pretty well, although I wonder if the changes won't be even more wide-ranging than that.

Perma, a very happy birthday. I hope your new roses give you much joy.

Jin, those vases are as cute as buttons! I hope you'll be posting pics with roses in them soon.

Perma, I am with you all the way 100%. I can't stop, really. I have them in pots now bec I am very much like Vap doing it alone. It is like I slept for 50 odd years or so to old garden roses.

If only my garden is set than I can enjoyed it but I just started and I have a long ways to go.

I wish I had money that way, I can pay landscaper to design and buy all the roses at one time. Fix my fence as well.

So, I am basically in the same boat as everyone else.

I have total all together plus what I bought this month 29 roses.

29 roses all together. But, most of them are shipped to me. I rather go there and see myself and smell them. That way is better.

Ingrid, aren't they cute . But, I hope one day, I can buy vases like yours and many Rosarians. Antiques and Crystals, sounds great. Maybe one day. I love your collection and Carol's ( Oregon). They are gorgeous.

Jin

Perma: Yes, an antique rose is much more than just a rose. It's history, it's romance, it's beauty, it's fragrance, it's science, it's life, it's culture, it's poetry, it's magic. It's a reason to get out of bed in the morning--to look around excitedly to see what bloomed. Like you this is basically my only indulgence. I've been frugal by necessity for decades. This is really the only thing I've done for myself and I don't feel guilty for spending the money. What's stopping me now is I have no sunny space left to put them and I am really pushing it on shade tolerance with many of them already.

Ingrid: I agree. I think the future will be worse than those forecasts.

Jin: Yes, with money just about anything in the garden is possible. I could spend thousands easily in the garden. Every year! I want to fix my paths and get some flowering plants that are shade tolerant. Maybe a bunch of encore azaleas for starters. I'm eventually going to have to shift my focus to shade gardening because for every square foot of sun I have about 200 square feet in shade.

I really wish I could get as worked up over shade plants as I am for antique roses.

As an aside, my crape myrtles are all blooming now and they are really beautiful but they do not make my heart go pitter patter like my roses do.

Jin: Rose Petals Nursery has another open Garden Day 8/4 Saturday 8 AM -noon.

Also A Reverence for Roses is even closer to you (Hernando, Fl). I have though about making an appointment to visit them but I want to wait until they have more in stock.

Thank you, Ingrid! I agree—reverence is a great word! :-)

Cedemas, your place sounds so refreshingly serene. I think your roses will appreciate a bit of shade, considering the intensity of our sunlight. You seem to be doing lots of careful research and purchasing, and it’s all going to come together beautifully. :-)

Thanks, Perma. When I first saw it, I took one look at the backyard and was hooked. It was paradise. Very primeval looking (but artfully designed). Then I bought the place and when I got my first water bill I nearly passed out. So the stuff that needed watering eventually died, and now I have a fairly low maintenance backyard which has two serious problems: 1. too much shade and 2. weeds!!!! But it's still gorgeous even when it's a mess.

I just quantified my observations about A Reverence for Roses. Since I am only interested in the highly fragrant ones, I selected for that. Out of 119 varieties, only 20 are in stock. That's only 16.8%. Not enough! It might be a low-cost business model but it is also surely low profit.

Cedemas, I only check for highly fragrant ones too so maybe that's why it felt like they were out of everything! Maybe everything else is in stock?

Lavenderlace, you are singing my song. I love highly frangrant too.

Cedemas, I would love to go to Rose Petals but I am trying not to. Reverance is nearer but I rather go when they have roses in stock. Temptations, temptations...good n bad. You have no idea how badly I resist in purchases. I have so many and I have not even started on the beds yet. So, it will be a while. Just the timing is really bad with daily rains. Whatever, I do is going to be undone and leach out. So, I need patience. Trust me it is really hard not to buy.

Jin

Jin, you are being very smart, for your situation. You’ve been working so hard on your soil, and it really will pay off. Your new worm babies are eating and pooping up a storm for you, and making happy soil. And who knows what treasures RFR has in store for us just growing along in that new greenhouse! You’ll be able to buy up all the lovelies while the rest of us are too broke from all our summer purchases! :-)