Oooh, Jeri, they are lovely together. My garden redo in November resulted in Polonaise moving next to SDLM, basically red and white. I'm looking forward to them intermingling. Thanks for sharing your beautiful photo. It makes me want to experiment with Prospero. I don't have room for Sombreuil - so sad.

Sherry

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Wow! That is certainly lovely. Thanks for sharing this beautiful picture with the rest of us.

ooooooh...I love this! What a beautiful combination!

That's beautiful Jeri, thanks! I used to have that combination with Purple Buttons and Ivory Palace. Kim

Gorgeous! Does Prospero smell as good as he looks?

Very pretty!

I never thought of them as a combination, perhaps because the size of the plants on which they grow is so radically different.

But in my yard, they grow fairly close together, so I see them that way. And any distance in the garden is erased in a vase.
As to fragrance -- I THINK Prospero is fragrant, but it's one of the fragrances I've lost to years of sinus infections.

If I were planting, now, I'd plant Prospero at the feet of Sombreuil, in a prominent location.

Jeri

That is a beautiful combination, Jeri. I used to have a red and white theme in my front yard, but never had roses of similar forms. Your roses are outstanding.

Sammy

Very nice picture, jeri.

One of my favorite combinations is Souv. de la Malmasion and Caryopteris (bluebeard). I thought I had a picture to share but can't find it. The combination of the pink and blue together is really appealing to me.

These are two gorgeous roses and together they're spectacular. I've heard you mention Prospero as a really great Austin rose in your garden but wonder how it would do in a hot, dry inland garden. It looks very "old rose" with its many beautifully formed petals. Thanks for the treat!

Ingrid

I love the red and white combo, jerijen - thanks for sharing. I was planning on getting Tradescant and Bolero to share a vase, but my kid doesn't like dark red.
I love ruffled petals - what a marvel of nature!

Ingrid, If it is helpful, 'Prospero' invariably responds to hot, dry, Santa Ana windstorms by transforming its blooms to instant potpourri.

I'm thinking, if I was going to try it in your conditions, I would try to give it morning sun/afternoon shade, and perhaps some shelter from direct East Wind.

Jeri

What a gorgeous combination! I love it.

Ooo, Jeri, those ARE yummy together!

Not antiques but I caught these two beauties together this summer.
Granada/Garden Party
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Seil, you do realize the combination you've posted is what created Double Delight, don't you? Kim

Jeri----that is a delightful combination---thanks for sharing

Seil---your two roses are very pretty---Seil thanks for the info about Double Delight----many years ago I had that HT and the flowers were lovely

Florence

Lol, no I wasn't aware of that, Kim, but looking at them together now I can certainly see how it could produce a rose like DD! This was just a happy accident as they were in side by side pots at the time. Granada was moved out to the new bed and GP remains potted so it won't happen again I'm afraid. Hmmm...but you give me ideas for a cross of my own!

Thank you , Florence! I think every garden needs a Double Delight! It's so amazingly gorgeous with ever changing colors and it smells so wonderful that I could never be without it. That's how it ended up being the only rose I have two of. The one that I inherited from my Mom's roses appeared to have died over one winter. I was heartsick and couldn't bring myself to dig it up. But I also couldn't be without DD so I bought a new one and potted it up. When it broke dormancy and got some good size and health to it I decided it was time to dig out the old one and plant the new one. When I went to dig Mom's out to my surprise and " Double Delight" the old one had sprout new canes! I left it in place and waited breathlessly to see if it would be DD or just some root stock. Sure enough about 6 weeks later it bloomed a truly beautiful DD bloom. I still have them both, one in the ground and one in a pot, and I treasure them both.

Many years ago, in a wonderful old Edmunds catalog, Wini wrote, "Poor Garden Party! At a rose show, Fred referred to it as 'Garden Pity' and a reporter repeated it in the paper!" If you can find any of the old Edmunds catalogs with Wini's descriptions, grab them! They're hysterical! She was highly knowledgeable and TERRIBLY opinionated. She HATED mauve roses. You can imagine those descriptions. "The Nile isn't blue and neither is this rose!" LOL! Kim

Ah, now there's some truth in advertising, Kim! Today it would be too politically incorrect to make such statements. All of the "Blue" named roses are not even close to being blue but they keep naming more of them "Blue" this or that and people keep buying them!

I love my Garden Party. It's a bit spotty now and then for me but it's vigorous and gives me beautiful blooms all the time. And it smells good too!

For some years, I grew a striped sport of Granada someone had found and shared with The Huntington. Granada Sunset was quite a pretty flower with some fragrance. If you like stripes and Granada, it's worth adding to your black spot collection. Kim

Here is a link that might be useful: Granada Sunset

Jeri, that is beautiful. What bloom form do you call that, anyway?

oh, classic combo - almost converting me to many petalled roses. Didn't you mention being a red and white polka dot ribbon wearer? Very cheering in the dim and dark UK. As a rule, I am not keen on red Austins but would consider Prospero one of the best (although I am still deliberating over Munstead Wood.

Gean -- that's a classic Rosette form.

Think of the Rose Windows in Medieval stained glass windows. There's all sorts of religious significance, there.

I FAR prefer this to the half-open form of the modern HT -- but I know, I know Dean Hole is there to remind us that no one form of a rose is to be held superior to another ... :-)

Jeri

Oh, Campanula -- Red Austins are only "OK" here on the whole (which is better than red HPs!) but Prospero is a wonderful rose for us.

Of the various "red" Austin roses I've grown or encountered over the years, by far the most satisfactory to me everywhere I've seen or grown it is The Squire. The original own root plant I grew of it propagated from an original Hortico plant, long before Austin was a presence here, grew and performed flawlessly in Newhall. Like an early red HT, only without disease and with vigor. Here it is in Torrance, Ca last year in a friend's garden. Huge, many petaled flowers of impeccable form; deep, dark, dusky ones of heavy velvet with an intoxicating fragrance. And, with NO disease of any kind there. That old plant was what Barcelona, Lizzy Horstmann, Will Rogers and all the rest SHOULD have been. Kim

Here is a link that might be useful: The Squire

Kim -- I think it might be good, own-root.

Our two plants of The Squire were from Hortico, and so of course were on Multiflora rootstock.
In the whole 15 years or so that they grew here, they NEVER stopped suckering.

And I mean, the suckers went OUT of the squat dropped into the ground, and travelled as much as 10-12 feet under ground before emerging as "satellite" Multiflora plants, growing in pathways, or other rose beds.

In addition to that, the only plants I've seen rival Reine des Violettes for chlorosis were the two Squires and one L.D. Braithwaite, grown here on multiflora.

Our Prosperos, fortunately, were from Heirloom (among the few Heirloom plants that came to us correctly labelled). They were slow to take off, but after a decade or more, they just get better every year.

When you come down to it, I find Prospero to be a bushier, "shrubbier," defintely more-attractive garden plant, IN MY CONDITIONS.

Jeri (who knows that every gardener's Mileage May Vary)

yes, exactly, Jeri - reds such as Falstaff are so spindly here - I like my roses to look like myself - well-upholstered.

ROTFL! I hadn't quite thought of it that way!

I don't at all mind some of my roses being sort of "open," but neither DH nor I enjoy roses that are rigidly upright, with no lower foliage -- that "Military School" look.

:-)

Jeri

Jeri, that's just space to plant minis in!

Ah, Seil -- I used to think that way.

But as water has become less-available and more expensive, my thinking has turned to retaining ONLY roses that are rare, threatened, or in some other way important to me.

"Companion" plants are sages, dwarf lavenders, some Irises ... things that don't demand much water.

I wish I did not believe that we will never again in my lifetime have ample water here.

Jeri

gorgeous! I agree, the similarity of the blooms makes a nice color contrast. One day I'll try another dark red rose!

The Squire was an amazing rose in Newhall, Aimee. Healthy, vigorous, fragrant and always in bloom. By FAR the best Austin red I've ever grown. Kim