Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1 well let me post our conversation Carl..... you are just out to destroy people! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- you cry and whine like the worst person ever! you got your money back as I promised and agreed in the first place. did you not? c'mon tell the truth here.. as always there are 2 sides of the story... I even offered you a free laelia purpurata pink HCC/aos blooming size division for free for the trouble of not having it shipped to right away because of the crazy cold weather. I communicated with you to let you know what was going on but since you did not get it your way you are just out to destroy a person reputation just because you can... Such character on your part DOES THAT MAKE YOU A BETTER PERSON? IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER? hmm something is wrong here...we both know I did not steal anything from you.. you know that.. right. hassle.. yes but steal? I do not think so... as I said I sleep good at night because I do not steal and destroy people's reputation. oh yeah this was part of your threat... well I can counter act by telling the truth.. I do not have anything to hide... From: aiko31@comcast.net To: malibucarl@hotmail.com Subject: Re: You've received an answer to your question about item Cattleya Summer Spot BLOOM SIZE orchid plant 8" net POT Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:28:04 -0700 i emailed you monday getting ready to ship you did not reply. i simply wanted wanted to get an ok and if the plants are to your liking. I guess not.. Regarding the shipping... the thing of it is. they will sit outside of my house the carrier picks it up for me because i am not home and will be at work. that is how I ship my plants... the shipping label was going to be purchased through paypal so i do not go in the post office. MARIA KRON ----- Original Message ----- From: carl straub To: aiko31@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: RE: You've received an answer to your question about item Cattleya Summer Spot BLOOM SIZE orchid plant 8" net POT READ THE EMAIL STRING AGAIN. YOU PROMISED TO SHIP THE PLANTS WITH INSURANCE AND TRACKING, ON MONDAY. YOU DID NOT DO IT. It makes no difference re. Temp IF you deliver them to a facility. YOU email paypal to release the funds. THAT would end their investigation. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aiko31@comcast.net To: malibucarl@hotmail.com Subject: Re: You've received an answer to your question about item Cattleya Summer Spot BLOOM SIZE orchid plant 8" net POT Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:21:59 -0700 i was waiting for your reply yesterday. we had snow falling and freezing temps. you can check my zip code 98684 but I guess not. i tried working out with you as much as possible. paypal will refund your money. as I said they are holding the funds and will release them to you when they are done with their investigation. MARIA KRON ----- Original Message ----- From: carl straub To: aiko31@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:01 AM Subject: RE: You've received an answer to your question about item Cattleya Summer Spot BLOOM SIZE orchid plant 8" net POT WTF, read your last message--"OK WILL SEND THEM OUT MONDAY" u r really unbelievable. IF you sent today they would not arrive before the weekend. I DO NOT want plants shipped in bloom. u screwed around for OVER a month now. THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME. REFUND MY MONEY NOW !!! Carl Straub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aiko31@comcast.net To: malibucarl@hotmail.com Subject: Re: You've received an answer to your question about item Cattleya Summer Spot BLOOM SIZE orchid plant 8" net POT Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:12:38 -0700 here are the plants.. please tell me if u still want them. I will pack them and get the shipping through paypal. BTW we have cold front our zip is 98684 you can check the weather it is pretty cold so you can tell me if it is ok to ship it but i will not be responsible if they freeze if you agree... MARIA KRON ----- Original Message ----- From: MARIA KRON To: carl straub Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: You've received an answer to your question about item Cattleya Summer Spot BLOOM SIZE orchid plant 8" net POT ok will send them out Monday. do you want pics of the plant so you see them? MARIA KRON ----- Original Message ----- From: carl straub To: aiko31@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: RE: You've received an answer to your question about item Cattleya Summer Spot BLOOM SIZE orchid plant 8" net POT IF, I say IF, you intend to send the 4 plants Monday, insured, and with a tracking # that you'll send me MONDAY, as you said in the last email, then I will accept your offer. If not, tell paypal to release my money immediately. Carl Straub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: aiko31 To: malibucarl\ Subject: Re: You've received an answer to your question about item Cattleya Summer Spot BLOOM SIZE orchid plant 8" net POT Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:14:13 -0800 Carl, I think the problem was i am sending you email through my phone and not getting through. But as far as the funds Paypal will hold the funds as they are right now and will releases it to you once they are done with their investigation. I work in the morning 8 till pm and use my phone a lot for emails. I noticed that when email is coming through ebay and i reply using my phone it does not go through. ( just found that out) I will not send you ugliest plant as you can see in the auctions I just listed they are blooming size plants and purpurata pink is a mature division and all of them are in sheath. I sold lots of orchids and expensive ones and awarded divisions and not here to ruin my reputation at all for 180. I am not here to rip you off or i would not make this effort at all to right the hassle or your wasted time of waiting for the plants and even offer you a nice plant that easily sells for more than 75.00 and not commonly available? either way you will get your funds through paypal once they are thru... ----- Original Message ----- From: eBay Member: arthurs.310 To: aiko Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:40 PM Subject: You've received an answer to your question about item Cattleya Summer Spot BLOOM SIZE orchid plant 8" net POT eBay sent this message to(jellybeanaiko). Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Learn more. Buyer has responded to your question about this item Do not respond to the sender if this message requests that you complete the transaction outside of eBay. This type of offer is against eBay policy, may be fraudulent, and is not covered by buyer protection programs. Learn More. Dear jellybeanaiko, I did not receive your proposal. I want NO store credit You told me that "paypal would refund my money" AND "they have the funds". Both untrue. If I accepted your offer of my original 3 plus laelia Purpurata 'pink' you would just send me the worst plants you have. PLEASE just refund the $180 as you said you would. Carl Straub Refund (Unique Transaction ID #526215496V6608736) In reference to: 0S952411RV2884504 Original Transaction Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net Feb. 9, 2009 Payment From Carl Straub Refunded Details $180.00 USD -$5.52 USD $174.48 USD Related Transactions Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net Mar. 2, 2009 The funds that were placed on temporary hold have been reversed Removed Details -$180.00 USD $5.52 USD -$174.48 USD Mar. 12, 2009 Update to Reversal Canceled Details $174.48 USD $0.00 USD $174.48 USD Mar. 12, 2009 Refund Completed ... -$180.00 USD $5.52 USD -$174.48 USD Carl Straub Email: carlstraub@charter.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total Amount: -$180.00 USD Fee: $5.52 USD Total: -$174.48 USD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mar. 12, 2009 Time: 16:12:51 PDT Status: Completed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: You have sent $174.48 USD to Carl Straub with PayPal Note: Ok Carl, I had a talk with paypal and we are now closing the dispute and your money as promised is being sent back to you. paypal held the funds. I was going to send the orchids even though the funds are being held by paypal until done with their part. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ok, Just stating some facts, I am in the middle of a dispute with him. It has been a week since I paid for the seeds and there still in Arizona today, it will be at least another 3 till i get them according to usps. When i Complained that he held my seeds for a week before shipping this is what I received back. "I did not hold the seeds. as my policy clearly states, IT TAKES ONE DAY PER ITEM FOR PROCESSING. 12 days processing, and it took my 7. Sounds like I'm ahead of the curve there. If you read MYWORLD or the ME policy on seeds sales, it also clearly states that the items will be shipped on the FOLLOWING BUSINESS DAY following the weekend. So if anything, your payment on Monday was processed by Friday, and shipped Monday. I also sent you an email updating you on the package status.Secondly, your item has been sent. If you would like a refund, RETURN THE ITEMS. NO REFUND WILL BE GIVEN UNLESS ITEMS ARE SHIPPED BACK AND SEED COUNT IS ACCURATE. ( I packaged them myself, I know how many seeds are there.)FF" I know I will not be dealing with him again after this mess is straighten out.

Update! I got home tonight and found email from the seller saying she would refund me all of the money. She has asked that I ship the bedskirt to the next buyer (she is re-listing) and she will reimburse me for the cost to ship. I told her I would be happy to ship to another buyer and thanked her for finding a fair way to resolve the issue. The money was back in my account within minutes. I expect she will reimburse my shipping costs. All correspondence was within the eBay system so it is trackable. Lisa, as for the suggestion to ask for details, I hear ya, but that is a rabbit hole. I mean, where does it end? The dishes I got ripped off on were listed as "New." It never occurred to me that they were new but seconds. Yes, I should have asked, but it just didn't even cross my mind. I'd like to think that if someone says 18" in a listing, I don't have to ask if it is indeed 18". Roselvr, I did not wash the bedskirt, just ironed it. The Dish Witch would have accused me of having washed and shrunk it! Nicole, I am glad your PayPal experience was positive. In my case with the dishes, PayPal was not willing to refund me the return shipping costs. I would have been out $25 and even then the seller was threatening to notify the police that I was scamming her. I don't think she actually would have had a leg to stand on, but I just wanted it over with. Red, if I order something that shows up defective, I will often call the company and have them pick up the tab for return shipping. It's only fair. I am glad your sconce situation worked out. I do use my dishes from the Witch! And they were a lot cheaper than they would have been from Replacements. Yaya, I have a PayPal account. I have always used a credit card that I have registered with Paypal. Is a "buyer credit account" something different, something with more protection? Thanks everyone for the advice and commiseration. I'll let you know in a week if I get the shipping money refunded. I am optimistic that I will. The bedskirt is already re-listed. Stay tuned! :-)

I've been buying on eBay and exclusively using PayPal for many, many years. Things may have changed with PayPal in the ensuing years, but when I signed up you put in a credit card number, and all of your payments were against the credit card. There was a PayPal limit of $2,000 that could be charged against the card. After that, if you still wanted to use PayPal you had to give them your checking account number. PayPal then made three random deposits in very tiny amounts (like anywhere from five cents to a dollar); and those deposits were made on different days. You then had to key into PayPal the dates and amounts of the deposits. This verified to them that the account was, indeed, your own account. (And you got to keep whatever amounts they deposited into your checking account.) After that you have the option of paying for an auction by putting it against your credit card or by a cash transfer from your checking account. I only pay for things with a cash transfer if it is $15 or less (including shipping). But if it's a larger amount, or if the seller is relatively new, I'll put it against my credit card because I like the protection that a credit card payment affords -- if an item doesn't show up, or if it is substantially different than what was advertised, I can notify my CC company and cancel payment. I like to pay for my winnings as soon as possible. But, I never, ever, make the payment until the notice shows up in my Inbox that I've won the auction.