Of bindweed and Roundup
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Comments (12)I wonder if this (below) is bindweed. It just showed up here this year. The danged stuff grows like a "weed" ":^) very rapidly. I have been battling some wild morning glory on a chain link fence at the opposite end of my property. This is different, vines are skinnier and weaker, but it grows much faster and the flowers are different, so is the fruit. The little green balls get larger then turn black. They have some yucky jelly like substance inside along with several black seed. I could probably find some with the black fruit on it, cut one open and take a picture if that would help to identify it. Birds probably like them and transfer the seeds to other places like along fences where they pause to rest. Maybe if I can get some help and pull all of it I can find, I can stay ahead of it and keep it from taking over. Here it is. Bill P....See MoreAm I too late to apply 2,4D to lawn to kill bindweed?
Comments (3)It's way too hot to use 2,4-d. It should only be used when the highs are below 90. It's probably better to be on the safe side and not use it unless the temperatures are below 85. Your best bet at this time of the year is to hand pull, but that's not very feasible if it's 50% of the lawn. Somebody posted a couple of years ago about diluting Roundup to about 1/4 strength, putting it in jars and partially burying the jars with some of the bindweed stuck in the jar. I think he did it in the fall as temperatures were cooling down. The idea is to kill the bindweed slowly enough that it draws the roundup into the roots, killing the entire plant, rather than just the part that's above ground. Since many of the vines that you see above the ground actually belong to one plant, doing this in one spot can cause bindweed to die in many other spots as well....See MoreBeing choked by bindweed
Comments (16)From Heavinsent "After laying all the paper I see that I will have to weed by hand the small gaps around the plants that couldnt be covered (I left about 1/2 an inch to allow for growth)" A little tip from experience. That little area you have to keep clear can be a problem. But if you let the weeds that come up there get tall, then bend them flat Away From the plant, you can cover them with mulch without "weeding" them. Wayne, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to flag you a 15-yard penalty for "Putting words in my mouth," repeatedlly. "You misread or missed my point entirely." I've always found it interesting that people often seem to accuse others of the very thing they do themselves? "I used newspaper as a tool but the roots of bindweed will outlast the useful life of a newspaper mulch." So you add new papers! Mulching is a permanent thing, a "way of life," so you just keep adding new mulch year after year. The bindweed will eventually simply run out of food, and roots and all will die. People have told me they got rid of poison ivy and oak with this method. Bindweed can't be much tougher than those? "The closely spaced plants I mentioned are impossible to "mold" wet newspaper around as you recommend." Well, then use only grass clippings right next to your plants. And see what I wrote to H.S. above. "Mulching does not "permanently eliminate" weeding in these areas. Some pulling is required." Well, then can you explain why the ONLY weeds I've pulled in 34 years are dandelions in my lawn? If you keep doing it, mulching Does permanently eliminate weeding. "In my area, a permanent mulch must be raked off the raised beds early if the soil is to thaw and warm up enough for spring planting. I learned this year that peppers and eggplants can't be mulched too early without cooling the soil and slowing their growth." I've read this before, many times, and it may, I say may, have some merit. But I would like to see someone do an experiment, pull the mulch aside on some plants, but leave it around others of the same kind. I wonder if the mulch keeps the soil warmer enough that things will grow just as well without clearing the area in the spring? I've tried removing the mulch and even putting black plastic down, but it seemed to make little difference. And yes I know I have a very farorable climate. "You've been touting the "no-work" claims of mulching in numerous threads here and admire your tenacity, but I don't think you are looking beyond your own garden gate." Wayne, a simple thing I could say here is, "I wasn't talking to you." I've gotten comments like yours before, on another board. And I've asked them if they can tell me how to talk to ONLY the people that might benefit from mulching, I'd be happy to hear it? Since these are public forums, people post what they believe or have learned from experience. Anyone who can benefit from it, should. Anyone who can't, or doesn't want to, can simply ignore it. My remarks are not directed at any specific person. "But unless they garden in a manner similar to your own very limited set of conditions..." I hardly think that gardeners coast to coast constitute a "very limited set of conditions." I've had gardeners in New Jersey, Alabama. Tennesse, Michigan, the Southwest, as well as right here in California wrtie to tell me they can't beLIEVE the difference mulching has made in their gardens. To me, Wayne, it sounds like you don't want other people to try this? If you think there are problems with it, that's no problem whatever. But you seem to want to stop me from even talking about it? "There is no "no-work" method" Again putting words in my mouth. I never wrote this. Are you familiar with the political tactic called "Setting up straw men?" Everyone has known someone in their lives, out here in the non-cbyer world, that they know they will just never see eye-to-eye with. I already have that feeling about you, Wayne. So a simple suggestion: Ignore my posts. Or don't you give other people enough credit to judge for themselves if what I say works or is nonsense? I was incredibly fortunuate many years ago to learn of the mulch method of gardening, and all its incredible benefits. All I want to do is pass on my good luck to other gardeners. Tyrell...See Morebindweed
Comments (49)Why is there such a hatred for bindweed? This plant is a good friend of mine. Once I tried to poison it and it came right back up. I am so ashamed that I did that. Don't you all realize that this "weed" is a fertilizer? Yes, the roots go down deep, so deep and they bring up all the nutrients that rain and water take down. What I do is turn it under every time it comes up. Yes I have to pull it away from the plants. But eventually when the plants mature it weakens from lack of sunlight. In some cases it can shade the tomato plants from the sunlight which causes sun scald on the maturing tomatoes. Like I said I love Bindweed. He is my garden friend and he visits quite often and we chat and then I turn him away. But I know he'll come back, he always does. Sometimes I let him stay. It all depends......See Morepnbrown
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