Questions re: hardy oriental persimmons (i.e. 'Ichikikei jiro' )
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Comments (24)Interesting conversation. I don't have a dog in this fight, but did want to make a comment about statistics. Often people use the term "average" which is the mean, but think of it as one would "median". Say there are 10 farmers. One makes $2,000,000 a year and the other 9 make $20,000 a year each. Their average income is $218,000 but their median income is $20,000. Is that a well off group of farmers because their average income is $218,000?...See MoreShin persimmon astringent
Comments (71)Cliff thought his Shin had completely snapped below the graft union because the fruits he was getting from his snow damaged mother tree were astringent. After consulting with me, he decided to change his idea about Shin being non-astringent. Really, if he was getting fruit from the rootstock what are the odds they'd even be edible? What I had was extremely precocious which should be a pretty good indicator of variety. Why are you debating about the shape? To me they look more like Fuyu than the astringent varieties in stores. Maybe I just have no eye for shapes. Let's move on....See MoreQuestions re: hardy oriental persimmons - i.e. 'Ichikikei jiro'
Comments (1)I'm not positive, but from what I've read a lot of the ones you see in the grocery stores might be Fuyu. That is what I grow in Crystal Springs, MS. My trees's are only 3-4 years old, approx 6 feet tall. My step-dad's are lots older, but still only 8-10 feet tall. Very good producer's, excellent fruit. You might want to look at the fruit and orchards forum My mom was japanese, they have Ichi's and Fuyu's. I think she liked the Fuyu's the best. He also has Tanenashi. Here is a link that might be useful: fruit and orchard forum...See MoreSeeking advice on Asian Persimmon for Zone 6b
Comments (42)I very much like both Asian and native persimmons, but I think they are very different. I wouldn't expect them to be very similar except in appearance of the fruit. If I were looking particularly for late persimmons, Rosseyanka and Tecumseh come to mind. Check out the link below for a ripening order list of Edible Landscaping's persimmons. Edited to add: it seems to me there's more of a difference between the native persimmons and rosseyanka in terms of the fresh eating season than EL's list suggests. My impression is that the rosseyanka season extends well beyond any of the natives. I know I got to eat Rosseyanka's off EL's tree (i.e. at EL) in mid-December. Perhaps it's just that they ripen earlier than December but hold on the tree better than the natives. Here is a link that might be useful: scroll down about mid-way for ripening order chart This post was edited by cousinfloyd on Sat, Jan 3, 15 at 18:11...See Moresautesmom Sacramento
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