House Plant Tea Club - Post your tea and pics
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Cruel no more! Pics of adolescent Tea
Comments (23)Thanks for the suggestions, folks, and for the photos, Jeri especially for the group of pics. I have 'Mme. Lombard' down in the sunny garden, and though she nearly drowned last winter she didn't quite, and I was able to find a bud and compare. I'm inclined, from my in-the-flesh comparison and what I read and hear--I also looked at the pictures and description in the Australian Tea book--to think that my rose is not ML, though I'm by no means dead sure. The receptacle is not the same shape: on my rose it's shorter and wider than on ML and doesn't constrict at the top. My rose, in the three years I've seen it flower, has always been light to medium pink, sometimes deepening toward the center (to medium pink) but never red, and without the coppery or peachy tints that ML shows. My rose has pale buds, not red. Comparing the pedicels of the two roses, ML's are smooth, green, and flattened; my rose's are red, "hairy", and not flattened. The shapes of the thorns on my rose are variable, some like what I see on ML, but others are almost worthy of the Wingthorn Rose: you see one of these in my photos of yesterday. Does 'Mme. Lambard' have thorns like this? How large are the leaflets on ML? My rose has quite large foliage: I measured 3 1/2"-4" on some terminal leaflets. I had difficulty comparing young foliage as my rose has so much mildew right now. I don't detect any fragrance, but don't know if weather conditions has anything to do with that. For what it's worth, having both varieties in the garden, it has never occurred to me that my rose could be ML. However, it can take me years to notice a resemblance. It's not 'Bon Silene', which is always a richer pink in my garden and which has occasional white markings which my rose lacks. Also the forms don't seem particularly similar. 'Rhodologue Jules Gravereaux' and 'Duchesse de Brabant' look too globular. 'Susan Louise' doesn't look like it has enough petals. I've posted another shot I took yesterday. Further guesses and thoughts will be appreciated. Melissa...See MoreTeas (yes teas) in hot dry protected zone 5 - decidedly so-so
Comments (13)Thanks for the complements on the teas, but as you'll see most of them are other OGRs or even HTs. Thanks for reminding me of Barcelona's special non-tea status, Jeri. I'm relieved to see your comments since I remember a posting from you years ago scolding people who would say "sure, you can grow teas in zone 5". That's one of the reasons I made sure to put lots of qualifiers on this post - in hot, dry, protected zone 5, you can grow mostly unexciting teas, sometimes... Still, Seil, it's delightful to hear I have company in this kind of experimenting, and I look forward to hearing what kinds of teas and other OGRs might do well for you. Jeannie, it's great that your teas grow to their more magnificent potential for you, and we'd love to see pictures! Ok - here as promised are the closeups of the teas. Anne did a very nice job guessing with a wide shot like that and pegged most of them - the teas were #13, 16, 11, and 4. Yep, one bloom each for 11 and 4, and not very impressive at that. I'll show you closeups of all 5 teas that still survive. First, the better blooming teas - #13, Madame Antoine Mari. It's only about 3 feet tall in its third year (whereas you couldn't keep it that short in California), but it blooms reasonably well off and on in the summer. If all my teas bloomed this well, I might be foolish enough to plant more of them. Maman Cochet (#16 in the photo) is a little above knee height and has survived our winters fairly happily. Since she gets hit with the full force of the west winds, she's the first to get protected in the winter. Georgetown Tea is probably my oldest tea, with over 5 years growth on her, and she has the occasional bloom at the front of the border (#11 in the photo above). You can't see but one bloom, even behind a drooping Savoy hotel. Just to prove she did bloom... I couldn't catch a photo of the whole bush with blooms on it, so here it is from a few days ago, still under 3 feet tall. Here's Mrs. BR Cant with most of the bloom in focus (#4 in the group shot). The next photo gives you an idea of how tall she is, and she's probably my biggest topping out above 4 feet. Now for the contrast - here's Mrs. BR Cant in the background looking more or less tea-like (#4 in the photo), and that tiny 18" wimpy twig in the center front is Duchess de Brabant. (it's the one not remotely visible in the group shot). She's 5 years old, and a toddler could jump over her. To be fair, she gets shadowed out by Queen of Sweden and lots of clematis, and she's supposed to be among the smaller of the teas, but really... I can't recall ever seeing a bloom, but I keep holding out hope, and if she's going to survive I'll keep giving her a chance. She's my poster child for "don't think you're really going to grow teas in zone 5". In case you're curious, here are the rest of the rose IDs by number (I think) - obviously I mix roses and never have one bed of any particular type: 1 - Charlotte Brownell 2 - Dream Come True 3 - Jeanne Lajoie (up a shepherd's hook) 4 - Mrs. BR Cant 5 - Queen of Sweden 6 - yep, Dr. Huey - I had no idea it really could look this nice. I actually potted it up after I ripped it out, since I've only ever deliberately shovel pruned one rose. I figure I kill anything in pots, including philodendrons, so only the good Dr. has a chance anyway. 7 - Scepter'd Isle 8 - Rountuit - the only time it blooms all year (sigh) 9 - Madame Isaac Periere - a terrific OGR for our zone 10 - Vick's Caprice being smothered by MIP (he gets back at her in the fall flush though) 11- Georgetown Tea 12 - Savoy Hotel 13 - Madame Antoine Mari 14 - Acropolis 15 - Careless Love (mine rarely has that lovely stripe) 16 - Maman Cochet (just barely) Cynthia...See MoreCold zoners: your 5 most hardy hybrid teas please
Comments (62)Grandifloras are more hardy than hybrid tea as own-root. Chamblee's Nursery in TX used to classify floribunda as hardy to zone 6, grandifloras are hardy to zone 5, and hybrid tea varies vastly in hardiness. My grandiflora and 5th-year own root About Face is 6 feet tall as of today 9/12/22: Hybrid tea Veteran's Honor is very hardy, it's a 6th-year own root. I moved it 4 times due to lack of sun and poor drainage, but it's always healthy. It almost died a few times thanks to moving. Pic. taken August 2022: Own-root Mirandy is VERY hardy with its long root. I regret killing this 4th-year own root per my daughter's request (it's too thorny for her when she was in kindergarten). When I dug it up, the root was at least 1 foot long, despite being next to a tree. My husband loved its color and long-lasting in the vase. Mirandy has THE BEST SCENT among fragrant red roses that I grow (Barcelona, Munstead Wood, Rouge Royal, The Dark Lady, Tess of d'Ubervilles, Firefighter). I might order it from Roses Unlimited again since I miss its fabulous scent and health. Never see blackspots on Mirandy. It did so well despite bad and dry soil (next to a tree), so I want to give it a better chance....See MoreSpring Tea Party *Pics*
Comments (17)Thank you all so much for the kind words. You gave me a much-needed boost today. I do enjoy having tea, and often treat myself and use the "good" cups and such. Sometimes I think food and drink really does taste better in pretty dishes. I might as well use them, they will probably wind up in an estate or garage sale some day! Kathleen, yes I remember the spit test for linens. I've never done it -- I can just think about spitting on my finger and sense my mother's disapproval. I can not imagine running that spitty finger over something. No doubt she would still find a way to punish me. lol...See Moreteengardener1888
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