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do gardening make you feel frustrated sometimes?

15 years ago

like for me, i used to think that gardening is so easy, you can just plant the seeds, water them daily, they will just grow like you see in those pictures on the packages.

but in real life, it is not like that. bugs eat my young plants. i have some pill bugs problem as some of you already knew. sometimes, i can spent quite a lot of time, trying to squeeze those tiny ones by hand. very time consuming.

if i don't fertilize, the plants don't seem to grow much; and if i fertilize too much, they will die! and sometimes, for no particular reason, they just die. for example, i planted some alaska peas at different areas with different sunlight exposure, somehow they all just died recently. and they didn't even grow much.

and once they die, i always try to plant some more, then i will have to spend extra time on that again.

what do you do when those things happen to you?

Comments (26)

  • 15 years ago

    I always figure that is part of gardening. Not everything is going to grow right, and bugs will always be a problem.

    The most frustrating thing I find about gardening is dealing with invasive species- namely the Japanese beetle at the moment. Who the heck released that pest. If it was meant as a science experiment, then why didn't the research a little bit better?!

    Despite the Japanese beetles, and constantly having poor pea plants, I still feel gardening is worth it. There's just nothing quite like eating a bean right off the vine, or running out to the garden to harvest some lettuce for a quick salad.

  • 15 years ago

    Ay, tell me about it. All of my squash plants only want to put out female blossoms, which has been so frustrating. I just try to remind myself that I'm trying to do this for fun and to better understand how food is grown and the process plants go through in their life cycles. It's really a learning experience for me. I also am reminded that I'm not dependent on my garden to eat and that I'm lucky in the sense that if my veggies fail, I can just go to the store to eat. I think about what it must've been like to face some of these problems when life was rustic and your plants were all that fed you. So I just wait it out and just hope the next blossom will finally be the one to give me squash.

    It's still tough when you devote so much of your time and energy on something that just won't go totally right.

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    Squirrels.

    That's all I have to say on the matter.

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    I second the squirrels and raise you a tomato plant eating Great Dane who things raised beds are his personal play yard. He chases the bees and if he just "happens" to leap at one into the center of a box, while he's there, he might just as well wallow in the soil a bit.

    But seriously, the bugs are enough to make you want to throw up your hands in defeat. However, if it wasn't work, it wouldn't be so rewarding.

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    It really is amazing the turnaround in my yard in such a short time by simply reading these forums and applying different techniques. Oh, and be sure to pay attention to people's zones, since that's key to guiding you in your area.

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    I'll see your Great Dane and raise you scores of voles, who like to chew plants in half at the base and have bitten through a metal hardware cloth fence. And slugs by the pint.

    The hard thing is to focus on what I can harvest, rather than what's gone because of pests. I can't look at my garden this year without thinking of the dozens of marigolds, zinnias, basil plants, etc. gone to slugs, the pepper, broccoli, and kale plants eaten by voles, pea vines bitten in two at the base, squash plants eaten to the nub, cukes that never made it past seedlings, morning glories and moonflowers chopped in half, nibbled-on strawberries, girdled berry canes, greens full of slug holes ....

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  • 15 years ago

    Not really. I don't expect much and am happy when I am able to harvest something.

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    I'm also learning about fertilization this year. Last year I didn't even use any. Many of my plants died from that. Okra did really well last year despite the abuse so I would recommend that to anyone in a hot climate.

    Then there is our 100-107 degree weather right now. I also learned the hard way that you cannot water during the day in that weather.

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  • 15 years ago

    Be glad that you've got a garden going - I had planned to put one in this year (first spring in first house), but was never able to because: had too many other things going on, funds got diverted to other priorities, abundance of rabbits / moles / raccoons / deer that would've loved the free meal, etc. I was doing good on the seed starting (marigolds, zinnias, nasturtiums, onions, oregano, basil, parsley, and various peppers), but lost many to bad conditions, forgetfulness, and late start.

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  • 15 years ago

    "This week, I actually priced some heavy-duty, stainless-steel mesh that might solve the vole problem. For the slugs, maybe next year I'll use those "organic" pellets, even I've read they may disrupt the earthworms as well. This past week I caught half a dozen voles. But the more time I spend on pest control, the less I enjoy gardening ...! "

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  • 15 years ago

    Non-fruit producing tomatoes
    Squirrels
    Slugs.

    The banes of my existence. I'd never give up gardening though I love it way too much!

  • 15 years ago

    Yes, some things make me a bit frustrated but not overly so, because I just love gardening. I love being outside, putting my hands in the soil, growing vegetables, flowers and plants that make our lives so much nicer. I really enjoy growing from seeds and watching through the growing processes. I enjoy turning yard and kitchen waste into compost to improve my gardens.

    This year the long spell of cloudy weather slowed everything down and slugs that enjoyed it so much were a pain, but with the sun coming out a bit more now I'm starting to get a handle on them and things are finally starting to grow well.

    Over all things seem to get easier every year as you improve your soil and learn what grows well in your area, how to grow them and what you really enjoy growing. In my opinion organic fertilizers are much more forgiving than chemicals. If you concentrate on improving your soil and adding organic matter to your soil, creating a more balanced enviroment it is much harder to kill plants by over/under fertilizing a little bit. I don't think that you can add too much compost to your garden, unless you actually bury your plants you wont kill them.

    Good gardening, Mary

  • 15 years ago

    What frustrates me is sandy soil and the woes that come with it. It doesn't hold water. Fertility leaches through in an instant. And its a constant race to add organic material faster than it can burn out in the heat and humidity. But on the plus size, I can grow root crops for the first time in my life. :-)

    Note: If you live trap pests and relocate them to a different area please release them only on land that you personally own. My dad, out there in the country near the cornfields, cattle pastures, and woodlots where people want to release pests, has plenty of pests of his own already and does not appreciate city people bringing him more.

    Additionally, releasing non-native animals into a new area spreads diseases and parasites and depletes local ecological resources as the newcomers compete with the natives.

    Please, live with it or kill it yourself (snap traps are quick and merciful). Don't pawn your problem off on someone else.

  • 15 years ago

    Nope life is great in the garden if it doesn't work out I will pick it up at the store its the last place I want to be stressed at

  • 15 years ago

    Certain things frustrate me about gardening. Why aren't certain plants producing? Japanese bettles. Cucumber beetles. SVBs. Spots on my tomato plant leaves.

    Of course, each of those things gives me reason to study and plan for next year, which is part of what I love about gardening. What can I do better? What can I learn?

    I started my gardening just last year and I wish I had been able to do it all along. I love the feeling of self sufficiency. I love the satisfaction of knowing that I helped cultivate a crop that helps feed my family.

  • 14 years ago

    I love gardening, but I am frustrated at the ants and aphid problem I'm having. I feel like Bill Murray in caddyshack movie, chasing the gophers and cussing at them.

  • 14 years ago

    Gardening is not for sissies Prep. 20 push-ups for every time you over-fertilize.

  • 14 years ago

    Hang in there preppyjock, it's gardening! Some years some things do well and not others, then next year the things that did well and not so well trade places , and then some years everything does great. But one thing that remains the same is ,every year is a learning year! Have fun.

  • 14 years ago

    ya, it still makes me frustrated sometimes. because i can't plant another one, the weather won't permit, and i have to wait for another year! that is a long time. but i am getting over with it.

  • 14 years ago

    It's 86% experimentation (plants don't read the descriptions in the catalogs) and a whole lot of just plain sweat!

    I worked for a nursery for 11 years (just quit 3 wks ago) - this year, record numbers of people were looking for vegetable plants & seeds. I'm wondering just how many of those folks are putting in a garden for the first time, and how many will be disappointed at the realities. Hot sun, watering, feeding, mosquitos, squash borers, beetles, weeds and Hard Work! Not to mention the regular ruination of one's manicure. Oh, and Squirrels.

    Not for the fainthearted! But another suggestion - take classes if you can find them. The county Extension Office and local garden centers are good places to start. And if you don't see a class on a subject you're interested in, make suggestions!

  • 14 years ago

    Taking the "Master Gardener" class at your local County Extension office is a great idea. Also have you thought about teaming up with another gardener who might have a bit more experience. Most garden people I know ( as you can tell on this site) are more than willing to help. Maybe voluntering at a community garden would give you a chance to be helpful and learn at the same time.

  • 14 years ago

    I think I like the planning and troubleshooting more than the actual harvest. This was my first year planting a veggie garden and I spent (way too many) hours over the winter planning the layout, picking seeds, determining water/fert needs, etc, etc. And now after losing most everything to rot, bugs and slugs, I am already planning for next year (row covers, black plastic and drip irrigation). The few crops that have survived have almost been forgotten about. Now, I will be excited if I ever actually pull in a bumper crop of more than a handful of peas every few days. Until then, I tinker.

  • 14 years ago

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  • 14 years ago

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    I think we get less disease here cause we get no rain from about April/May-Oct.
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