adding raw manure to fruit trees
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Olive Trees - Adding Lime after planting
Comments (7)I incorrectly stated in my last post my olive trees were planted in Oct 2006. Actually it was Oct 2007. I need to see if I can get any more info from MSU who did the soil test about whether I apply all the ag lime at the same time or not. Gonebananas is right about the limestone gravel dissolving slowly (a large pile has been in my driveway for several years) and it sounds like the ag lime idea if done correctly should eventually get the surrounding soil to the correct PH. If I used the limestone gravel and spread it around the trees it would interfere with any mulch addition so its probably not a good idea. The idea for the azomite came from the website of Santa Cruz olive tree nursery where I bought the trees but I suppose that is less important than the soil PH. They soil here is more clay than sand and doesn't drain as well as it should, another potential problem. Thats why I added compost to an oversize hole when I planted the trees. I was going to add sand but several people told me that would make the soil harder, not softer. MSU and no one else I've found around here is familiar with olives, as they are not being grown by anyone else in Mississippi to my knowledge. Closest place near Austin, Texas. Most people told me that I shouldn't try them in zone 7 and a grower I talked to over the phone advised me to only plant the Mission variety due to the cold temperatures here. A professor at MSU told me that they would start an olive trial next year after I called and told them I have 21 growing here. I'll probably add another 20 next fall. Softmentor, what kind of mulching would you suggest. Right now I have applied pine needles around the trees to keep competition away. What about spreading more compost around each tree over a larger area (10'x10' per tree). I'm not as knowledgeable about gardening as many on this forum, as I've generally planted trees (pines,oaks,etc.) and just left them alone. Thanks for everyone's advice, as I've gotten most of the information on planting here rather than from the sellers or local sources....See Moreanyone use raw manure tea?
Comments (10)My grandmother did up until mid1950's -- a 500-gallon tank half filled with horse manure in the spring and filled with water. We kids would bucket it out to water potatoes, cukes and the like. We would top off the tanks at the end of chores. In the mid-1950s she discovered Vigaro salt fertilizer and abandoned the tank of manure tea. The tank was still their in 2003, rusting among 40-ft tall trees. She had the fields manured in the Fall with cow manure from a local dairy but would not use on food crops. I never did know why, me not speaking or understanding her. Having made and much appreciated tea brewed from composted steer manure, I can understand in part. Without active aeration the manure tea become much ranker than that made from horse manure. I grew wonderful brassicas using manure teas for my own consumption. I applied it directly as a sidedressing soil drench to well established seedlings. I wouldn't use it on any veggies anywhere close to harvest nor on lettuce and other low leafy greens. I buried a 32-gallon plastic trash can three quarters the way down, added 1.5 cu.ft. bag of composted steer manure and added water to near the rim and set the lid tightly. For a month or month and a half I stirred the soup as often as I could until fermentation pretty much stopped. Then I used a ratio of 1 to 4 of tea to water. By this time all sediments had settled out. As an organic small farmer I'm not allowed (with good reasons) to use raw manures in such a way. Occasionally I purchase vermicompost tea made by high-aeration process and spray on non-bearing crops. The business is owned by a friend and the material is tested from time to time, so I trust the tea....See Moreis fresh goat manure ok for trees?
Comments (22)"will " a nice layer of wood mulch " act as fertilizer or do i need something with nitrogen in it?" From the "Minnesota DNR" Minn DNR, come the following reasons for using wood mulch under trees: Benefits of mulching with wood chips · Saves Labor - no weeding, less time watering · Saves Water - far less watering needed, and more rain absorption · Safer - no need for chemical weed killers or herbicides · Stimulates growth - mulched trees grow faster than un-mulched trees · Makes trees more resistant to disease and insects · Keeps soil and roots from overheating in hot summers · Eliminates injury to trunk from mower collisions · Reduces soil compaction over roots and adds loft · Nourishes the soil by adding nutrients as it decomposes · Eliminates the need for tilling and resultant root injury · Reduces bruising of fallen fruit under fruit trees · Increase earthworm population resulting in better aeration A site with pictures of properly mulched trees can be found here Missouri Dept. of Conservation. Again, the use of manure (composted/un-composted) is up to the owner of said trees; although both sites state mulch adds nutrients to the soil. I am not sure weather adding nitrogen at this time of year is advisable or not. I will trust others to guide you with their experience in that regard Blutranes...See Moreraw pack peaches---adding sugar to jar.
Comments (6)I've canned my peaches and pears this way for years. I generally put 1/4 to 1/3 cup sugar in each quart jar, add some boiling water to the jar, swirl it around to dissolve the sugar slightly, then pack the jar with fruit and add enough boiling water to bring it to the top, allowing 1/2" head space; process as recommended. I've taken the Master Food Preserver training and, although this is not a recommended method, it's perfectly safe. I love this method because I don't have to have a pot of syrup heating on the stove, and I never have leftover (wasted) syrup. Here's how you can determine how much sugar to use to suit your family: pack a jar with as much fruit as you usually do, then, measuring as you go, pour in water to determine how much liquid you generally put in each jar. Now look at the syrup recipe you usually use and calculate how much sugar would go into it if you were making a batch. For example: if you want to make a light syrup that has a ratio of 1 cup sugar to 4 cups water (approx. ratio of a standard light syrup recipe), and the amount of liquid you put into a jar packed with fruit is 1 cup, then you would use 1/4 cup sugar in that jar - ratio of 1/4. If you pack your jars looser, therefore using more liquid, you may want to put slightly more sugar in each jar in order to keep the ratio the same. And if you like a heavier syrup, calculate the ratio of sugar to water and use that same ratio for each jar. It's not rocket science - experiment. Put 1/4 cup sugar in one jar, a heaping 1/4 cup in another and 1/3 cup in another (be sure to mark the lids). When you eat those jars, take note of which ratio you like the best and next year can your jars using that ratio....See Morealan haigh
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