No idea what you're talking about.

This https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/6469723/what-s-for-dinner-413-fall-winter-holidays-2024#n=23

Well, I guess I missed all that. From what little I read in the thread link, not sure what all the anger was about, I think posts had been deleted? It seemed to me that there was much overreaction but I don't follow the "whats for dinner" threads.

“It’s nothing new.”

Agree. I’ve participated in various cooking forums over the years. It’s been my experience this type of thing isn’t uncommon, yet can still take you by surprise. It’s unfortunate an innocent question (I also had in my head) created some angst for the OP. Who knows why but best to just carry on with the fun of sharing thoughts.👍🏻

I appreciated Sleeve’s food and that she constantly showed us what she was cooking. After all this is a cooking forum with a What’s for Dinner thread. People who say they never read it are criticising her.

It’s very difficult when trying to comment on the fall out from the WFD thread. Yes Sleevendog got the comment from Plllog confused by thinking she meant every garnish seemed wrong on her soup. However, I think she (Sleeve) was coming from a previous long time of perceived negativity from some of the comments Plllog has made towards her and others. She said “Plllog is the ring- leader” so I don’t think she was just referring to this post. Just look at the comments here and on WFD thread to see the negativity directed at her.

She (Sleeve) was also disappointed that Plllog hardly ever contributes to that particular thread yet pops up with a confusing comment that diminishes the work she ( Sleeve ) has put into that one and all her other posts. Of course that’s not to say Plllog doesn’t put a lot of research into her replies to all other posts on the forum.

The deleted post from party music, I guess was perceived as criticism. These things happen. NONE of us like to be criticised.

I hope we can all go forward with our questions and comments to our cooking community that has been going for so long and I for one, would love to hear what people are having for dinner and perhaps a photo to ‘show and tell’ on the What’s for Dinner thread.

I've tried to stay out of this, but feel I have to respond to what Neely said. I thought I was being careful in my wording. I thought what turned out to be popcorn sprouts looked like plant spikes (which they are, more or less!), but not any particular kind I could remember seeing. So I asked. I thought it was said in a neutral manner, and I thought the soup looked good, and indicated I knew how good roasted tomatoes are in soup because I learned it in that Ina recipe, whereas she learned it from a caterer and had used it in that soup. The last thing I would want to do is insult or upset anyone, and the two of us have never communicated well, so I was actively trying not to do either. I think the "ring leader" thing was in reference to PM's deleted post, but before PM restated it I was clueless and truly baffled at what the offense was.

I do read WFD sometimes, but not daily. Whenever I have posted a meal there I was slapped and derided., so I don't post them ever, and told S so long ago. I thought a simple question and comment would be safe, however. Boy was I wrong!. It's rare for me to have anything that fits the format anyway. I mostly cook when I feel like cooking, and assemble meals in an ad hoc way from what's available. "Dinner" per se is something for company, or occasionally, for home, something small, like lamb chops, when I have to figure out accompaniments on the fly, and often use the vegetables as a starter rather than trying to make composed plates. There's rarely a picture-taking device in the kitchen, and I'm too involved with the food to think of pictures, or even desire to think of them. My food pictures are mostly of baking, including lasagna type things, where the made item has to sit around cooling down without my involvement.

I generally like the looks of S's food, too, and have told her so. I'm not sure what comments towards S Neely was referring to. At times I disagree with her, and offer my contrasting viewpoint, but in interests of a full discussion, and never about her food. We did have a misunderstanding awhile back when she was saying herb and spice blends weren't as fresh as the individual components, and I, who likes using them for everyday cooking, had never found the ones I use lesser than. Eventually, we cleared it up that she meant that she could make her own blends from her freshly milled spices that were fresher than the bottled ones, whereas I was comparing the bottled blends to the single items from the same bottlers. Two very different things. I'm fine with my bottles, but have always admired S's determination to make her own from whole. And recently when she posted her Amazon warning, I chimed in saying I'd generally had good luck, and followed it up a few days later when I had an issue. That's conversation, not negativity. If it's not this kind of thing, I don't know what "long time of perceived negativity" toward her Neely is talking about. We had a small squabble over a misunderstanding a good while ago, which I thought we hashed out, and settled. It was all because neither of us understood what the other was saying. I don't remember the topic, but I've tried to be extra careful since. It didn't work, but I tried.

Apparently some people hold grudges. I didn't know what was on the soup either, to me it looked like daisy petals.

Oh my. I'm sorry I brought it up! I'll be deleting tomorrow!

I don't know. Maybe better to clear the air...

I think tone is impossible to read in written posts. I was part of Garden Web in distant eons ago and regularly observed, failed to observe or even notice I was engaged in various levels of snarkiness.

I went onto the kitchen forum regularly for awhile and found it intimidating, unfriendly and having little to do creating with a functional work space. That said with some distance I realized I didn’t need to take it personally. The forum was not geared towards the kitchens I know or have lived with - which tend to be makeshift, modest, elderly or completely custom and handmade.

I really like the cooking forum but I rarely post photos of meals. I do not have the set up or the skills to take really nice food photos and my meals tend to be rather casual. I enjoy others photos though. I tend to be looking for advice or inspiration for recipes or ingredients.

I am sorry people got so upset. Especially when they are regular contributors to an online community that I enjoy.

Here is my great niece ‘helping’ with an apple crisp. I had to squelch my inner Martha when I realized she was squishing the crumbs into the filling.

“Especially when they are regular contributors to an online community that I enjoy.”

Agree! agmss, I enjoyed your entire post. That photo of your great niece is part of what can make these topics so enjoyable.

I did delete some comments, but I am very tired of sleeve going ballistic on me and others for no reason.

I dared ask about minestrome soup. I wanted to know what was different from it and vegetable soup. She went off the wall ballistic.

I did google and find the answer. All minestrome is vegatable soup, but not all vegetable soup is minestrome.

Her recipes or such are fine, her food is fine, but you are not allowed to ask ANY questions.

Any questions are viewed as an attack. Even if you just want to know an ingredient.

The kitchen forum is quite funny sometimes. Many of those kitchens don’t look like anyone everycooks in them.

agmss, that is one cute little baker. As for the apple crisp, it's apples and topping anyway, and not particularly picky, so it's all good, LOL.

I post on What's for Dinner and have, apparently, escaped the criticism that others have complained of. My dinners are not always particularly attractive and certainly not as artfully arranged as AnnT or DCarch did theirs, but it's dinner. I also freely admit that sometimes I had no idea what some of the dishes, decorations or garnishes were, and answers were given in a civil manner. THere were a couple of posters who seemed to look for a reason to criticize under the guise of "being helpful" and I remember one prior member just completely going off the deep end because I doubled the lemon in "her" recipe.

I hope the dust settles. We've already lost so many of the "old" posters, and I miss them. I don't participate in social media at all and don't post on many other forums, just this and Harvest, mostly. I tried the "Tomatoes" forum once and got called an idiot so many times I had to quit before my tomatoes found out and quit growing. Some seem made for contention and others don't get any participation.

Annie

I don't contribute anything to the WFD thread as it gets so long. Also, I produce 2 meals a day and really can't be bothered / haven't got the time to start taking pics of it.... I personally didn't see anything antagonistic in Pllog's comments and think Sleeve over-reacted in a very strange way but I did send her a message asking her to stay as she is a very valuable contributor here.

What a load of old malarkey over nothing!!!

People don't always agree. That's life. We all have our quirks, likes and dislikes. That's what I value about people.

I remember a while back that a major contributor to cooking got so mad over someone thinking that separating up frozen mixed vegetables was too much work or something like that. So, just like that, one innocent comment made a valuable member run off. It was weird to say the least! As the saying goes "don't sweat the small stuff".

I guess I’m getting old. At what age or season do adults start yawning at drama?

I hope the dust or flour settles and we can soon go back to drooling over gustatory delights and photographs. I like dropping into the Cooking Forum. I don’t cook as much as I used to and I can only take photos of my creations if a cleaning and remodeling crew comes by.

Ya know, I looked at that yummy roasted tomato soup and recognized something very familiar, but could not identify the petals right away. So, it turns out I can eat some of my dahlias? Yay. I love that flower.

Some creative and painstaking people have an exacting temperments and perhaps the sensitivity for food and aesthetics is always buzzing in the background. Imagine the tension.

There are big stressy turbulentissimo times on the horizon, so we would be wise to conserve our energy and patience. This can be a place to escape.

I have not seen or read any untoward comments or snarkiness. And I hope that making eye candy dinners with superb photos is not a requirement for lurking or participating in CF. Else I might have to bombard with bad photos of my sardines on crackers or omelettes with just eggs on chipped Melmac.

Please bombard away :) This isn't Bon Appetit. This is the real deal.

akgirl, I remember that now, I'd forgotten about that entirely. I believe I am the person that thought it was far too time consuming and picky to separate all the vegetables in a bag of frozen mixed vegetables. But what do I know? I'm the person that will pick unwanted items off pizza, LOL.

Annie

No, Annie--If I may disagree! It was NOT you. Not by any means. You would never be so nasty. It wasn't a simple disagreement or a statement of what one would or wouldn't do. G taught food strategies, IRL, for seniors with very small incomes trying to maintain their dignity and independence. One such strategy was to buy a huge discount bag of mixed plain frozen vegetables and separate them out into different containers before putting them in the freezer at home. The point was to be able to use the individual vegetables on different days in different dishes, to keep down the boredom that leads many seniors to forego eating enough. Genius really. A member of a different forum, which the thread was crossposted in, who is known for nasty sniping is the one who so offended her that she left, though there were a number of others who pooh-poohed the way she lived her strategies to be able to teach them in full knowledge of the way they worked. I admired her greatly for that level of dedication to service, and I learned a huge amount from her on other topics, and still miss her.

Picking unwanted items off pizza sounds like a logical strategy to me! I do that with olives, too...

“Picking unwanted items off pizza sounds like a logical strategy to me!”

Absolutely! Bell pepper for me!

Well, I did believe that it was the comment about the separating the vegetables that made her angry so she left. Apparently there was something else, I'm pretty sure that it was said that the veg. comment made her leave. I don't think I'm making it up...LOL! Although I have been known to have one or two false memories. HA! At least now I can rest easier knowing it was something much more sinister. Oh and I had not remembered that it was you, Annie, that said that about the veg., I thought it was someone else.

You're right, arkansas girl. If you want to reread the post go on garden web to a post by seagrass on the cooking forum titled: Supermarket frozen vegetables. The post is eight years old. I miss grainlady and her informative posts.

seagrass_gw Cape Cod

I remember grainlady. I hope I didn't contribute to her exit. I've also been wondering about lindac - has anyone heard from her recently?

Arkansas girl, you were right. The comment was about the veg, but it wasn't Annie. I don't know if the triggering comment is still there.

OH OK, so I'm not losing my mind! HAHA!

Whew, well, I'm glad it wasn't me.

I haven't heard from LindaC either, and I do hope she is well. Heck, we were just youngsters when we started here and that was quite a long time ago!

Annie