Looking for feedback on Grohe & Moen faucets
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Comments (4)Thanks, Dianelouise. We're just giving our kitchen a "refresh", but I can't the amount of decisions involved in an entire remodel! We were at Lowe's last night and came across the Delta Victorian. The height is right, and it has magentic docking, but the handle is separate. That would mean another hole in the granite. How many is too many? We will have the faucet, handle, water dispenser, soap dispenser, and air gap. Will that look weird? If we go with the Blanco Silgranit Diamond double bowl, there is just a slight curve at the top. Do we just line all these things up at the back like little soldiers? I did see another thread discussing this, but they didn't seem to have as many objects. I believe it was Natesgram who posted a pic, and it looks nice and streamlined. (Does anyone know what faucet that is?) My DH is leaning towards the Delta because we can get it right away from Lowe's (for $230-ish, not sure why the website says $335). I'm more interested in the Grohe, but just not sure if the brushed nickel finish will be a problem. Here is a link that might be useful: Delta Victorian...See MoreMoen Arbor Motionsense faucet and other faucet decisions
Comments (9)We just bought the Moen Brantford Motionsense in ORB, and I struggled with the decision too. Like so many other great things my kitchen has acquired since finding GardenWeb, it's life-changing. So on to some details... Is it crazy to mix water and electronics? Well no, not in a kitchen. Your ice maker does it. Your garbage disposal does it. Your fridge-mounted water does it. Your electric stove does it, in a sense. Today, there are steam-clean options for ovens and steam-dry options for dryers. The Moen faucets have 2 sensors and MANUAL CONTROL. You don't have to use any sensors if you don't want to. And, honestly, when you have company, it makes sense to turn off at least the front sensor (guests seem to have a talent for dousing their sleeves). Turning on and off either sensor is easy but not so easy you'll do it accidentally. There are 3 basic "components" - the faucet, the mixing control box, and the power source. The mixing control box houses the electronics, mixing valves, and bypass lines. Sounds complicated, but hooking up was really (really!) easy. We put the mixing control box on the back wall of our cabinet to keep the hoses out of the way. The power source is just a small plastic box that can hold batteries or connect to the plugged-in transformer. We paid for the transformer, but it sounds like most people can run for about a year on one set of batteries. The wire connecting the power source to the control box is pretty long, so we put the power source box on the side wall right next to one door. The temperature control is on the power source, and we figured we may want easy access to it. The wires can be tucked up at the top of the cabinet (they come with ties) so if there is ever a hose failure, there is a minimal chance of electrocution. We have an outlet under our sink, and I see the risk as equivalent if we had left our garbage disposal in place. Have sensor faucets improved over a few years ago? I think the answer is yes, but I also think it's important to differentiate between the sensors in public restrooms and the residential model you'll be buying. The sensors in residential models have no excuse for being faulty. If you're not happy, return it and get a replacement or buy a different brand. Our sensors are well-placed and have shown very consistent operation. Based on reviews, this is normal and I can expect years of this. The bad reviews I read indicated faulty mechanics or incorrect installation. Statistically, there is certainly a chance of getting a dud - and that's true of standard faucets as well. 3. Pros for us - and every family is different - far outweigh the cons. Here are some of the ways we are using the motion sensor that make our lives more pleasant: Washing chicken hands Washing hands after cleaning the litter box Wiping down counters without leaving the water on Rinsing out the cat food can Rinsing off fruit and veggies Rinsing out a coffee cup or cereal bowl single-handed and without getting wet Rinsing off a serving spoon covered in soup or spaghetti sauce after a quick stir Rinsing off a heavy pot carried with 2 hands These are all pretty minor, but it's shocking how few times a day I actually touch the faucet - really just to wash dishes. Cons are pretty few. Okay, I admit we all douse our sleeves once in a while. When I scrub down the sink, I have to remember to turn the faucet aside so I don't accidentally wash the cleaner out before I'm ready. Sometimes I wish the front sensor would extend out just one more inch. The Moen technology has adjustable temperature but not adjustable flow; this was a major issue for me before we installed and now it doesn't matter at all. The handle must be installed on the right; this was almost our deal-breaker. We really wanted a 360-degree faucet so we could install in front. But with the Motionsense, we only touch the handle once or twice a day. Do I wish it was on the left? Well, yes, but it really doesn't affect my enjoyment of the faucet, and it's habit now to reach AROUND the right side to get to the handle. It's really the only compromise we made, and it was so worth it. So... I love it! But, I paid for it and I'm biased. What I found most interesting was my mother's response when she stayed with us for a week. Initially, we turned off the front sensor so she wouldn't get wet. After 2 days, my husband and I missed it so much we turned it back on and told my mother "tough luck - keep your sleeves out of the sink." 2 days after that, Mom said she kept waiting for the bathroom faucet to turn itself on! She adapted quickly, despite her aversion to gimmicks and technology in general. She misses it now that she's back home....See MoreWhich faucet (kitchen) - Kohler, Grohe or Moen?
Comments (14)We're renovating our kitchen and I just paid for 3 kitchen faucets today! One for the main sink--a whitehaven like yours--one for the large prep sink and one for a small pantry sink. After a pile of research and talking with contractors, dealers, and salespeople, we settled on Kohler for the two kitchen sinks and a lesser known brand for the pantry. We went with the kohler bellera--a different style, not trying to suggest it--but it was only $400 (Cdn, too, cheaper in the US, I'm sure). Basically what we heard was that all of these are good brands. All of these companies have good customer service and good warranties. All of them make cheaper versions of their faucets for big box stores, and those cheaper price points mean more plastic parts rather than metal ones. We are big cooks and have had to replace a lot of $200 faucets, so we were quite willing to spend $400 on something that should last a long time, although we weren't willing to spend $800! Plumbers like Moen (which we have done in our bathrooms) because parts are easy to get and easy to replace. But this is because the parts need replacing regularly! Kohler has a lifetime warrantee not just on the cartridges, but on everything, including the finish. You have to call them for parts; the plumber thinks that's a pain, but Kohler will ship within 24hrs, all for free. Grohe is now owned by the same company that owns Delta, etc, and I have heard the quality has gone down. Personally I didn't think it was worth paying a premium for. I love the Kohler faucet you posted--don't know how I missed that one! :) My one caution/ concern is to check the height. I don't know what the rule of thumb is, bit we found that taller faucets just end up splashīng and overpowering regular sinks. The industrial faucets were originally designed for the massive, deep commercial restaurant sinks and I was nervous about some of the towering ones we saw. Hope that's helpful!...See MoreWhat kitchen faucet is better between Moen & Kohler?
Comments (9)You can’t go wrong with either. My plumber favors Moen, he says it’s easy to repair, and they have in the past been earnest about honoring their very generous warranties. I once had a Moen kitchen faucet fail after 3 years, and Moen told me to just pick any faucet I wished from their website as a replacement, regardless of price point. But Kohler is excellent. I have yet to wear one out. We have Kohler in all the bathrooms of the home we bought last year — some of it 40 years old — and still flawless. Enjoy your new kitchen!...See Morevinmarks
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