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Joy Ramluckun
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popmama (Colorado, USDA z5)
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How to manage composting kitchen scraps in the winter.
Comments (22)I believe the easiest way to get compost to the bin is via 4 children, but I understand there are drawbacks that come with that particular solution. ;-) We generate an enormous amount of compost. Husband loves cooking. He loves buying vegetables more than he loves to cook them, unfortunately. He is more of a meat guy, but based on his shopping I believe he wishes he ate more vegetables. Between the food we do eat and the food that goes bad before we eat it, it's a pile. Our compost pile has been overflowing for a long time, despite being able to use much of the good product this summer. This fall I bought two of these geobins for composting, and so far am happy. I would think they would make a good temporary bin to keep closer by in winter if somebody didn't want to use a plastic garbage bin. I bought them because I truly didn't have time to build anything myself, and by the time I bought supplies I figured I wouldn't be too far off the $32 cost for the geobin. It is easily adjusted from a small to large radius so I didn't have to think about sizing. Geobin composter I used to "do" composting better. Kept it wet, turned, and hot/warm, etc. Our chickens we used to have were a huge help. Now I don't have the time. I'm into cold composting, which is a nicer way to say "dump it and leave it."...See MoreComposting just kitchen scraps
Comments (18)Our compost bin has for years been just 4 pallets which I originally tied together with binder twine. More recently DH has nailed it together. All we did until last year was dump all kitchen scraps with no layering or doing anything except removing the top layer to give it more time and digging out the black compost at the bottom. We only did that once a year in this cold climate. No muss, no fuss, no smells, and no expense. We live on a large acreage with deer, chipmunk, squirrels, mice, fox, coyote, cougars, and bears and only twice in 12 years has a bear been in the pile. He threw the pallets helter-skelter but otherwise no problem. I don't think bears are really attracted to the pile as they are around all the time and would be in it more often if they were. The other animals have never seemed to notice it except for the squirrels and a few birds but they don't eat much. ;-) When we lived in the city on a 60 x 100 foot lot we buried the kitchen scraps between the rows of the garden. Made lovely black soil out of the crummy heavy clay we started with. Again no muss, no fuss, no expense, and even less work than the bin system. I call that system "feeding the worms" and they do all the work. Since discovering this forum I'm trying for faster and more compost so am doing other things as well but all winter all we do is chuck the stuff in the bin. Once all the snow thaws I'll turn it, add more used coffee grounds and some wood shavings and use if for top dressing - kind of compost/mulch. IMO better to compost lazily than not at all....See MoreCompost kitchen scraps with no smell in small space
Comments (19)-What is the purpose of fermentation? Why are fermented scraps preferable to fresh ones? --Purpose? In a kitchen bucket, it has the same general purpose as compostingto break down material into plant-accessible nutrients. Its just a different process, requiring conditions easier to maintain in a bucket. I dont know that fermented matter is always preferable; that depends on your needs and situation. For me, bokashi means I can feed my container garden all my kitchen waste (including meats, dairies, and oil). The liquid has value as a fertilizer, too, and is harvestable in as little as a few days after starting a bucket fermenting. Also, materials compost more easily after fermenting than when fresh. -Does it smell? If so, how much? Any rat or bug issues so far? --If you have the right container, theres no scent at all outside the bucket, so nothing to attract pests. When you open a healthy bucket, the smell is like vinegar, though if youve added a lot of a strongly scented item, the bucket will smell like that and vinegar for a day or so. Mistakes will stinkas with any processbut I didnt run into any problems until after I started testing which of the retailer instructions I could safely ignore, so if you follow directions, thats probably not an issue. -G- -Does fermented stuff take longer to compost than fresh stuff? --No!!! Fermented bokashi speeds aerobic composting marvelously; you can add it to a slow pile as an accelerator. I get fresh compost from cured bokashi and dried leaves in about a month, ditto from bokashi and soil (as with any compost, it should be left to mature awhile before using in the garden, and Im still testing those times). -Is anyone burying the fermented stuff without composting it first? If so, do you live in the city/ have rats? --Sadly, I have no holes in the ground. -The biggest benefit as I see it, is that I wouldn't need browns. I could probably filch a used newspaper here and there, but finding browns in three times the quantity of my kitchen scraps is not proving easy. If I can compost without having to drive around looking for bags of leaves/ begging home depot for sawdust, so much the better. --This is true. If youre going to trench (bury) orplanter-finish your bokashi, youll need soil but no browns. To compost your bokashi in a container after fermentingI recommend that part be done out on a balcony or other outdoor spaceyou will need some browns, though not nearly so many as with fresh-matter aerobic composting. Ive been using equal volumes of bokashi and dried leaves; YMMV. Retail EM bokashi bran is usually wheat bran in the US, but thats convenience and consistency more than anything, and you dont use much per bucket. Buying EM-1 inoculant fluid is cheaper than buying pre-mixed, and you can make your own bokashi "bran" with any number of things. Im playing with used coffee grounds right now, and have used EM inoculant fluid in shredded newspaper with some success. Cant speak to the non-retail newspaper-and-whey technique, as I havent yet tried it (small space, lots of experiments, but I will, soon. Ish). If odors are a concern, you might add a handful of really good soil and hope for rhodobacters! Obligatory disclaimer: while not a retailer, I do have a blog about bokashi, so am probably not the most unbiased of sources. DSF...See MoreUsing Kitchen Scraps in Organic Compost
Comments (30)Ok, again, you've said the literature should reflect what 'certified organic gardening' really is. 'certified organic gardening' DOES NOT EXIST. No such thing. Organic certification is a standardization of many organic farming concepts (that were around long before certification) towards a goal of consumer protection - truth in labeling. This is only relevant to companies producing products for sale to consumers. This does not apply to me as an organic gardener, nor to all those poor authors you feel are being hypocritical at you by writing books for organic gardeners. Even so, I do not believe organic certification requires using organic stuff to make organic compost - correct me if I'm wrong. If you'd like to write your congressman and ask his permission to use conventional feedstocks in your compost, go ahead....See Moreannpat
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