The replacement 36" Wolf Induction Range has been in place for a couple of months and not really used much as we completed the kitchen. We have now had it operational for several weeks. We are very excited by all of the benefits of the induction top: precise control, rapid temperature adjustments and the even performance of the convection oven. Unfortunately, this second oven has also developed a service issue. About one week ago, the unit began experiencing an E09 error condition on the front right hob. The fault is identified as an issue with Generator 2 and the service representative is ordering a part with a possible replacement date of this Friday. Admittedly, I am beginning to develop some genuine concern about reliability given the amount of money invested in this purchase. To have 2 different ranges have 2 different problems in the short term we have had them is upsetting. I'm not sure if it is coincidence or symptomatic of a larger quality problem. While the service process has been smooth and responsive, I'm disappointed to have to share that I've even had to use them this early in my experience with this new product. The service tech maintains that the failures that he's seeing in the field are few and far between. I'm wondering if anyone else is having issues with their range. I think Wolf is still exclusive with a 36" induction range but I'd love to hear from others who have either the 30 or 36" induction range models. How's your reliability?.

I will chime in because I am in the same boat. I love the F&P for styling but that oven is very tiny. Despite their marketing about fitting a turkey in there, you might be able to jam it in but then the top will most certainly burn. The bottom oven of the Cafe double oven model is 4 cu.ft. so larger than the F&P. My small microwave capacity is 1.2 cu.ft. so the F&P oven is only 3x the size of my microwave. That put it in perspective for me as to how small it is. The bottom rack is fixed to ensure that it is not too close to the lower element so that makes the usable capacity even smaller. Now after saying all that, we are 2 seniors who cook for the just the two of us. I am not a baker, so my oven use is just for broiling fish, roasting vegetables and cooking chicken breasts and pork tenderloins. So I know I could function with that small oven but the question is do I want to be limited by it?? With Covid, family extended family dinners are a thing of the past for now. And when the restrictions are lifted we will likely host family dinners out at the cabin that has a generous wall oven. I have read a lot of negative reviews about the Cafe and when I viewed it, the oven racks are a joke - very flimsy, poorly fit, and not fully telescoping. But I am having a hard time paying a high full price for a teeny, tiny oven. I will say, if I came across a scratch and dent model like you have where the price is comparable to the Cafe, I would probably pick the F&P just because we have a small galley kitchen and the F&P would not overwhelm the kitchen. But at full price.....I dunno. Ok, that was probably no help to you whatsoever, lol. Marilyn

@lynne3450 Which one did you ultimately get? If you go t the cafe, would you mind sharing your setup, I am curious as to how it looks in a non-showroom kitchen. I think the price difference is because of the material used and smaller production run. @katj461 There is a comprehensive thread on induction range if you search "induction range" that briefly talks about them. I've heard the kitchenaid takes 30 minutes to preheat because of the large oven size and has a weird control.

Since folks occasionally come across this thread, perhaps it's time for a 2023 update. Bosch Bosch has released a new "Pro" model in their 800 series line. The 800 Series Induction freestanding range (model number HIS8055U has front control knobs, but a rather small oven at 3.9 CuFt. While it does check my boxes for individual burner controls, preferably knobs, there's a few things to note: Oven size is rather small No bridge burner While Bosch themselves don't list out the wattage of each burner, it is a 40A circuit, so it may be a little less power than the Miele, Wolf or Fulgor Milano And this is a rumor and something I heard on a few appliance review videos, but unable to confirm: This product is the Smeg cooktop. If so, the burner power would be two burners at 3,000 W and two at 1,400 W. Which is indeed quite a bit less than the other top choices I had listed in the original post So overall it may look great, has front control knobs for each individual burner, but it may not have the power and/or reliability of the Bosch Benchmark slide-in induction range. Thermador They have been known for their "Freedom Induction Cooktop", especially in the 36" version. There are no truly dedicated burners, but a large "flex zone" on both the left and right side that are each powered by two separate inductors. You can use each zone as two individual burners or as one large cooking zone. You can slide pots and pans around over the entire zone and with several different programming options, it will remember your setting and transfer it to wherever you move the pan. Or you can set it to be in incrementally lower power settings front to back. So it can be on 9 at the front, 7 in the middle, 5 further back, etc.... Sear and just slide it back to lower the power setting. Extremely high tech and super impressive. So now Thermador has released this in a 30" induction range. The Thermador Liberty® Induction Professional Range 30'' Pro Harmony® (that's a mouthful) with model number PRI30LBHU is a sleek looking cooking range, with an impressively capable induction cooktop. What stood out to me: The Liberty or Freedom cooktop is phenomenally flexible, powerful and high tech. A little overwhelmingly high-tech even However, in a 30" range, it seems a little small. While the entire glass cooktop is 22 1/2" deep, a large section in the front is taken up by the controls. Based on some initial measurements, that means the flex zone cooking surface is only about 15 1/2" to 16" deep. I have to find one in person to confirm that, but based on images and scale, that's it came out to. Sounds awfully small to me And, for me, the biggest sticking point is the lack of individual burner control. On the 36" version there is a very sleek looking control panel that is very intuitive with a slider control. On the 30" version, it looks very much like the Bosch controls and hence not my personal favorite. But it may work for you All that being said, it's probably been the most exciting release in the 30" induction range world for the last year. The images attached are the size of the Thermador cooktop and the comparison the controls of the 30" Liberty range vs the 36" Freedom cooktop Other updates Dacor Has completely abandoned and discontinued the 30" induction range Fisher & Paykel Someone did point out that DCS sold the household appliance brand F&P to Haier. Which is a Chinese conglomerate that owns GE Appliances, Hoover, Hotpoint, Sanyo and a few other brands. I have not necessarily heard anything bad about F&P and know several folks have purchased F&P 9 series Classic models since they come in different colors to match your desired interior Fulgor Milano They seem to be more prevalent now than they were when I wrote the original article. And many people are quite impressed and happy with the quality. One re-occurring comment I see is that the oven seems to indicate that the preheat is complete, while the temperature is not fully distributed throughout the oven cavity yet. Especially in simple bake mode. The workaround seems to be to preheat with a convection mode to ensure the entire oven cavity is heated through and then switch back to the preferred baking mode. A bit of a workaround, but it that's the only complaint, I think it remains a strong top contender GE Cafe and Profile No major updates Miele Likewise no significant updates. The induction range is still on version 3 and remains equally impressive as it was when I posted the original article. Wolf Only has released a style update with a different oven door handle. Wait times seem to have gone down, but no feature or other technical updates As far as I know those are the updates I was able to find, so I hope this helps those continuing to shop around