Thanks for chiming in and helping out with this! Mendocino Rose - I think the color in this picture captures what it looks like to my eye, but it's a first bloom and those can be notoriously variable from the eventual bloom of the plant. The bloom form is probably a better characteristic to judge, and if that doesn't match the ones you grow it's helpful to rule them out. Too bad Fellemberg and Alexander Girault don't look like a good match - I was looking forward to a monster pink OGR to put head-to-head against Madame Alfred Carriere (though what I'd do with three of them is another question). Nastarana - thanks for the feedback about Etude. Somehow the petals didn't look right, and the thornless canes have been a puzzle. One of the other mystery roses that I think is the same variety has mostly thornless canes with two normal-sized thorns at random locations but it doesn't look like the canes will grow into their thorns over time. It's just the variability of "mostly thornless" I suspect. I appreciate the help and any other suggestions folks may have! Cynthia

I should show photos that depict its lack of vigor too. Great for dry heat, no crisping... but maybe not good for other areas. No new little canes yet. I really should be pinching off buds as instructed, I just got too busy. One got some black spot and defoliated, which isn't a problem ever here so if you're in a black spot area it's probably not so good. The others all have a little black spot too. This one gets the most sun and heat... it's the happiest. All my broccoli and celery, lettuce and radishes bolted in that bed too. It's hot.

Welcome to the rose forums, Scott! We can't wait to check out the new website when it's live. I recently placed an online order with Rogue Valley Roses (July 2019). One of the roses was out of stock (Little Grey Pearl), and Scott emailed me right away asking if I wanted a replacement rose or cancelling the order. I selected Reine des Violettes as a replacement. The roses were shipped and arrived in 2 business days in great condition. The whole process has been a fun experience. One of the roses, Double Treat, just has a bloom. Here are its pics. I will definitely buy roses from Rogue Valley Roses again. Thanks Scott. Helen

Thank you for the welcome rockyrose. I've enjoy reading the forum. And, Sheila, I've noticed that you try to bring in perspective on RVR. I have worked for small businesses before, and I understand that it's not personal or malicious/rude. I don't take it personally. However, on the consumer side, the desire for the correct item for the money spent is also a concern of mine. From what I can tell, it's not always a miss...people have gotten correct roses from RVR as well, and incorrect roses occur with every nursery. (The small business I worked for was for an older gentleman as his "retirement" job with collectible stamps -- another area that is rife with potential missing/incorrect stamp identification). What matters is how the company handles such situations -- and only time will tell for my personal experience :) *edit: So I want to apologize for the off-topic posts on this thread to @rockyrose And to also say that I ordered from RVR despite knowing some issues with sending incorrect roses because I wanted to give them/take a chance on them because I know that personal experience varies, people tend to post negative experiences more than positive, and that @Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR has mentioned that there are new workers (i.e. hot Scott, haha :) there recently which hopefully means a different experience. I'll post on a new thread if I have a positive experience with them, but since I requested an October ship date (due to the heat wave/summer heat in general) it may be some time (2022) before I can really tell. And on an aside, I think it's @Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR's full bush shots of Dakota Redwing I've seen on Houzz that has convinced me to want this rose bad enough to take a chance :)