Will I regret having a speed oven and steam oven only (no wall oven)?
Debra Cobalt
11 months ago
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Comments (13)I just linked to a picture I found online; however, my speed oven interior looks exactly like the picture. My cookies, not so sure..... Wall ovens, when they were introduced in the 1950s, were often really installed in a cutout in a wall. Nowadays they're almost always put in cabinets, but the term stuck. My Advantium 240 was installed in a new hole cut in the kitchen wall, reclaiming what previously was utterly unusable space above a staircase, which previously was open to its landing and 7 to 10 feet upwards, with sliding doors covering it. I reappropriated it for the kitchen in the adjacent room, as the bottom of that unreachable storage closet was only 50" above the kitchen floor. I would have preferred it a half foot lower, but free space in this tiny kitchen (which didn't have room for a dishwasher before renovation) was too good to pass up. As for how much I value the "regular" oven we're putting in, it too will have a drawer under it - and the oven itself is already under the counter. I got the smallest oven I could find - 24" wide, 24" tall - and it leaves room for a 6"h drawer underneath. I didn't want to waste space on an appliance that will rarely get used....See MoreMiele Combi-Steam oven, Coffee system, Speed Oven installed vertically
Comments (8)First of, congratulations on your good deals for these three units. They will serve you well. For ventilation and wiring purpose, you will need a gap at the back of the shelf behind unit. For combi steam oven, this is where the oven sucks in the air in. It will vent warm air to the front underneath fascia. So following diagram #1 looks fine. For the sentence "The cabinet housing must not have a back panel fitted behind the installation niche", this must be from a newer manual of the combi steam oven. For example, see newer 6805 manual vs older 6805 manual. In a version that I have it uses "Make sure there is no back wall behind the building-in recess" which means that there should not be a cabinet back wall right at the cut out area. See picture for air intake in combi steam manual in installation section. In terms of installation each is 18" tall, just need to be arranged such that coffee machine is not too tall, and speed oven not too low. Perhaps somewhere where the bottom of the combi steam oven is a little bit below bench top level. A combi venting warm air at the front is not an issue for comfort. I have only combi steam oven in my kitchen and its bottom is at the bench top level which is very convenience, but that would put coffee machine a little too high up, if it is going to be on top. Here is an image from mile-vs-wolf-steam-oven thread. Found a funny image on the web of Miele ovens, noted the coffee machine location....See MoreWolf Convection Steam Oven or Wolf Speed Oven???
Comments (20)I just got the wolf speed oven and so far so good. I just did a partial kitchen remodel and got the 36 inch all gas wolf so wanted a smaller electric oven for a 2nd oven or for smaller meals. I also was happy to ditch my countertop microwave. I had space in my cabinets to put the 24" oven in without a lot of carpentry needed. The24" seems to be the same interior size as the 30" model, only the outer casing is different. At first I was a bit thrown off by the fact that the microwave turntable turns even when using convection mode but I've found that with the low riser its great for cakes and pies. They rotate as they cook very evenly. I haven't tried any of the microbake or microroast settings yet and the "gourmet" modes seem sort of silly, mostly just plain microwave....See More30 Inch Wall Oven and Steam or Speed Oven?
Comments (10)I want to start by saying I have the same feelings. It's something I think about now and again, so I'm more sharing where I've gotten to in thinking about it and lite shopping. I 'm thinking it would be either the Breville Air Fryer Pro (about $400) or the Anova Precision (about $600). They are both countertop. Neither has a microwave. Either one would do a more competent reheat but not as fast as a microwave. Why is much the same reasons - waiting for preheats. Also for killing off other countertop gadgets. Also wanting more control. We pretty much use our microwave for the same reasons - reheating leftovers and reheating coffee. If the ovens do a better job of reheating food, then I'm down to reheating coffee and using it to steam milk for lattes. As far as I know (1,000 youtubes later), both are lovely creatures for baking of any sort. The Anova has steam and sous vide-like features. The Anova has a larger oven cavity. The majority of features on each are about the same. They both make toast. Have normal bake, convection bake, probe bake, air fry, dehydrate, broil and 10 other things. Either is thousands less than a built-in doing about the same thing. Whether it's built-in or not, they both strike me as things that will be on the shorter side of 10 years of life. It's also a different kind of commitment with a built-in because of cutting into a cabinet and the plumbing. I bake stuff - not cookies or sheet cakes but low volume breads, deserts and dinner for two so either would be good for me. I think I would like a steam oven. I think it would be the more useful addition but I don't know for sure and the concept of committing $3k-$5k to one built-in is scary. One of those Youtubes showed a countertop euro convection microwave air fryer (seriously!). They ditched the turntable in favor of a pricer flat surface on the bottom and the oven also has racks. It was made by Cuisinart of all people, but it's only available in Europe. The ones in the US are much worst - kinda crazy gismos like having a mini rack on legs on the turntable. All of the countertop ones I looked at were def. odd. Someone else will be able to talk about their actual experiences with built-in speed ovens since lots of those exist. Good luck with your decisions. Mine look like I'll finally decide in 2024....See MoreDebra Cobalt
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