Annual corned beef discussion!
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Comments (19)This is the sort of discussion you wish never got started. Howard Garrett is the biggest proponent of using CGM as weed control, so the number of Dallas area writers on this message does not surprise me. Garrett is also the only one I've heard distinguish between CGM and CGF. He makes a pretty big deal out of it, too. Could it be that corn gluten feed is a mix of corn gluten meal and something else??? Maybe molasses is used to sweeten it for the cattle? Maybe ordinary corn meal is added to dilute the product? I would be surprised if there were major differences between CGM and corn gluten feed. The corn industry is very sophisticated, but I don't think they can carve "feed" off of the corn gluten particles. That really sounds like something done at local feed mills. What scares me is that I agree with Linda Chalker-Scott about this. She must be getting smarter ;-)...See MoreBuying a side of beef
Comments (55)I've been doing this for years and years, now. I also buy whole hogs and free-range chickens. I just LOVE sailing past the meat counter at the grocery stores, especially since so much of what's there is nasty, injected, hormone-laced junk. IF you buy locally (try Local Harvest or Eat Wild, on the web, for farmers in your region) you can find excellent deals. I buy natural--no antibiotics or hormones--beef, grass-raised and corn-finished, by the side. I got one in September and I only paid around $450 ?? (maybe closer to $500; can't remember) dollars for a side of beef: that's hundreds of pounds of healthy steaks,prime rib, pot roasts, stew meant, ground meat, etc. My pig went to market this week. I'm getting about 125--140 pounds of pork chops, roasts, tenderloin, sausage, summer sausage, ground pork, ribs, hocks, hams and bacon for a total cost of about $260. AND it's the same quality pork (non-confinement, natural, hormone/antiobiotic-free, milk-feed) as sold by fancy-schmancy places like Niman Ranch, for a fraction of the cost. I have two freezers in my basement and also rent a locker from the butcher who processes the meat for overflow. That only costs me an additional $5 a month. Additionally, I have the satisfaction of dealing directly with the good folks who work hard to feed our families, and they actually make *more* selling directly to consumers in many cases, than they would dealing with big Agri-Business. It's the ONLY way to go, now, in my opinion. Plus, I just adore that "Little House on the Prairie"/all stocked up for the winter feeling of security....See MoreLet's discuss pasta sauce.
Comments (28)I was always intrigued by vintage cookbooks that used chicken livers in Italian meat sauces. A few years ago, I found another one in the book In Tuscany by France's Mayes, tried it, and really liked it. (Bracketed comments are mine.) FIORELLA'S RAGU DI FUNGHI PORCINI This recipe begins with odori, the earthy mix of root vegetables and parsleythat is at the heart of many Tuscan dishes. Serves 6 to 8 Odori: 1 carrot, minced 1 celery stalk, minced 1 onion, minced A handful of parsley, chopped 1 clove garlic, minced 2 Tbs. EV olive oil 2 Italian sausages, casings removed [14 oz.] 3/4 pound ground veal 2 chicken livers, cut in small pieces Salt Pinch of red pepper 2 cloves garlic, minced 1 cup red wine [I used chianti] 1 ounce dried porcini mushrooms 1 Tbs. tomato paste 6 to 7 fresh chopped tomatoes or one 28-ounce can tomatoes Sauté the odori ingredients in the olive oil [medium heat] to make the odori. Add the sausage, veal, liver, salt, red pepper and garlic. Sauté until brown, [medium-high heat] stirring often. When the mixture begins to stick to the pan, add the wine and stir [occasionally] until it evaporates. Meanwhile, put the dried mushrooms in hot water for 10 minutes. Remove them from the water [straining and reserving it], chop, and add them to the meat, stirring well. Add the tomato paste and the tomatoes. When the sauce has come to a boil, add the water from the dried mushrooms, well filtered. Simmer slowly for about 40 minutes. Serve with fresh-cooked, al dente tagliatelle or fettuccine. [I used fettuccini but would also be good on mafalda. It's too chunky for thin pasta like spaghetti.] I make different sauces depending on the time of year. In summer, my favorite is based on fresh tomatoes. In winter, I often use creamed vegetable soups with less liquid added as a sauce, especially roasted garlic soup. In springtime, we eat a lot of veal and I often make a sauce based on Veal Marengo....See MoreCorn meal vs cracked corn... any difference?
Comments (12)I applied cracked corn in April. It has made a difference in promoting a healthy grass growth (general fertilization). So in the sense of having a healthier plant, it probably helps. I have been reading about rhizontonia solani. It overwinters in sclerotia, which are hardshelled and not vulnerable to chemicals or other fungi. When conditions are good for development (warm, humid), bulbils attached to roots start sending out hyphae. They can attack the plant through natural openings, like stomata. The mycelium can spread plant to plant (easy in turfgrass which is so close to each other) and spread the disease. Generally for turfgrass it's the leaves that are attacked and as long as the crown and roots are unaffected, the plant can regrow. However the grass is very stressed and does not have as much photosynthesis from the leaves (since many have been decimated) and so can be done in, especially if it has other stresses, like drought stress. Having a healthy plant ahead of attack may make a big difference in survival. I have some clumps where probably the corn was probably applied more heavily than others and they are noticably thicker and greener with wider blades. Try to keep the leaves as dry as possible as long as possible: water in the morning, when watering, so the leaves dry quickly. Mowing at 3 inches or 3.5 is probably better than 4 so that there is less humidity down there. I am reading that brown patch is worse when the highs are in the 80s than in the 90s (maybe because things dry more quickly at higher temperatures) so I am mowing at 3.5 for now and will move to 4 (highest I have) when temperatures are higher. I am also using Serenade as a preventative. I think I have had an attack in one area but in general the grass is hanging in there. Excessive nitrogen exacerbates brown patch. However, light applications (1/4 lb/k) or a slow release, like any organic, would help the grass grow. Be judicious in amounts applied, even for organics, as cool season grass should not be forced to grow in the hot part of summer. I did 25 lb/k of the corn in April and calculated that it supplied about 0.4 lb/k of nitrogen. That's not much. The grass is acting like it had more. Maybe it was so grateful for any nitrogen (I had not done the late fall feeding as the grass was still growing all through December), it started celebrating....See MoreOlychick
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