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ingrid_vc zone 10 San Diego County

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Even in my rather benign climate it wasn't until the end of April that the roses really began to bloom in earnest, and that's a long time to wait. Many if not most of you have beautiful gardens filled with roses, and it would be wonderful to see them here now, when many gardens are taking a well-deserved rest. It doesn't matter in what year the pictures are taken or how many photos are present in each post. If your garden is large then of course we'd need more pictures to see all of it. This would be such a lovely thread for all of us to enjoy, although I admit I'm thinking mostly of myself as I'm starved for the sight of roses. It can't hurt for any of us, though, right?

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jerijen

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I could show photos of what our garden was, when we were 30 years younger, AND had ample water to grow as much as we wanted. It's a beautiful memory, now, but it was something else, at the time.

Of course, in drought times, it is all changed. And we are much older.

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PDXRobertZ8
last year
@jacqueline9CA your post reminds me of something...I lived in California for 33 years (I grew up in Napa) and do not recall seeing hellebores when I was growing up. Have you had yours a long time? Or are they a fairly recent addition?

Enjoy the break in the rain! :)
PDXRobertZ8
last year
@erasmus_gw I forgot to answer your question about clematis. Yes! We grow clematis in both the front and back garden. Most of those are new as well as they were added after the roses, but I think I have around 12-13? The oldest one is Rooguchi which is just a blooming stalwart in our climate (ranging from chilly to blazing hot in a matter of hours in the summer sometimes, or just days and days of extreme heat). But I have and love (and remember the names of haha):

Ville de Lyon

Jackmanii

Warsaw Nike

Wisley Cream (winter blooming one, this one)

Etoile Violette

Rouge Cardinal

Clair de Lune

Taiga

Florida Sieboldi

H.F. Young

Madame Julia Correvon

Polish Spirit

Most of these, if not all, were purchased at the end of season clearance for half off (it's way cheaper this way when they cost around $25/gallon). My partner also grows quite a few different passifloras. Some of them are fine to stay outside in the winter, but a couple have to be overwintered indoors.
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Hello to everyone! First time poster. I am fairly new to roses, and definitely new to this website. I am thrilled to have found it. What a wonderful place to feed an addiction to roses! BTW, I love everyone's pictures of their roses that they have shared, GORGEOUS! Just thought I would share my limited experience with these roses since I am growing all three. Of the three, Oklahoma blooms the most in this heat and humidity. Mr Lincoln smells wonderful but has been a bit stingy. Chrysler imperial is about to get the shovel as it has been a complete dud. I wish I could have had one that was productive like people are raving about but I will not be replacing it. I have a few other reds that are not mentioned in this thread , but are worth giving a shout out to they are Olympiad (no smell to my nose) but good rebloomer. Kardinal is my best red as it is always in bloom, and the blooms last weeks on the bush and as a cut flower. This one doesn't smell to me either. The one that smells wonderful and puts out lots of blooms is mirandy. She does blue as she ages but that is not a deterrent for me as her smell compares to that of double delight. I am trying to make room for some more roses in my small garden, but I thought I might try some antique or David Austin roses since I have seen so many beautiful pictures of them on this website and their are so many positive reviews on them. I did buy one this spring, molineux. Thank you Dublin bay, your picture of the 3 n 1 pushed me over the edge and I had to have it! Mine is still a baby but I'm hoping for the best. Does this rose tolerate shade? Thanks again for Sharing your experiences with you roses.
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Ok... I have to admit... all my garden is themed for colour 8o). Not only for that, but I always use to give colour themes (and plants associations themes) to each "room" in my garden. This helps to give a "personality" to each different corner, and allow to have so many plants...! LOL Vita Sackville West, Penelope Hobhouse, Gertrude Jekyll and Christopher Lloyd, I consider my teachers... each of them in a different way Colour association (like plant association!) has rules, but they are given to be broken, sometimes ;o). It depends especially from the specific shade of colour and from the light we have in a particular spot in the garden, or the light under we have the garden ;o) Monochromatic schemes can be boring and dull if textures and shapes are not carefully planned - And IMHO they always need to be enlivened with a little splash of contrasting colour Yellow and Pink.... what shade of yellow? and what shade of pink? It would be really different, if you put togheter 'Golden Celebration' and 'Queen Elizabeth , rather than 'Golden Wings' with 'Lavender Dream'... and so on... This is 'Maréchal Niel' with pink-mauve Pelargonium denticulatum... it doesn't seem too bad :op Sometimes a rose -or another plant- with a "special mix" of colours (like 'Mutabilis') in her flowers/leaves, can suggest an unusual colour scheme. But mixing roses is not only about colour of flowers. As Anita said, it's also about shape of the bushes and flowers ... (I have 'Cooper's Burmese' mixed with the ladybanks 'Purezza'... it's "total white", but the two flower shapes are very good togheter) ... and about texture of foliage and ... how do we say... a sort of special "genius rosae", a particular feel who's different, for instance, from a Gallica to a China or Tea. I've Teas mixed with different companion plants than Austin's or OGR, and in different colour schemes. So, in the Rose Garden, white, pink, blush pink, dark crimson and purples with a few pale yellows and apricots are mixed with the typical "cottage" style with blue and violet perennials, such a Nepeta 'Six Hills Giant', Salvia nemorosa, etc. Purple roses are very important to set off the very pale blush, but they are also very good also with lemony-sulphur yellow and salmon-apricot (I've used to have 'A Shropshire Lad'and 'Anne Boleyn' next to 'Tradescant'... now I'm plannin' to put 'Sénégal' togheter with 'Jaune Desprez'). In the "Mediterranean Garden", all is white and blue, with many silvery-gray foliage plants and lime green Euphorbias and Nicotianas. The Roses are 'Mermaid', 'Maria Leonida', 'Park's Yellow', 'Lamarque', 'Rival de Paestum', 'Glamis Castle', '"Mrs Foley Hobbs/Mrs Dudley Cross" each one far from another, in association more with neighbouring plants (shrubs and perennials) than to themselves. In the Water Pool Garden, Teas and Chinas are mixed with Grasses, shrubs from Australia, California and SouthAfrica, gray leaved mediterranean plants, purple foliaged plants such Pennisetum setaceum 'Rubrum' or Vitex trifolia 'Atropurpurea', in a mix of "burned" colours (flesh pink, bronze, tan, light apricot, purple, and just a little bit of mauve) In the new, little 'Rose Walk', Teas and Chinas in subtle shades of apricot, shell pink, salmon, cerise, (Susan Louise, Triomphe du Luxembourg, Dr. Grill, Miss Atwood, Anna Olivier....) are highlighted by darker Chinas and Teas (Cramoisi Supérieur, Souvenir de Auguste Legros, 'Monsieur Tillier' (ex Beales)... Near the kitchen garden, very pale apricot 'Perle d'Or', 'Safrano' and 'Jean Ducher' blend with mauves (Verbena bonariensis) and pale lavender (Lavandula buchii, Iris 'Fogbound', etc). It was the Iris -a beautiful, very pale lavender with a coral-apricot beard- who suggested the colour scheme! In another corner of the garden, under the light canoppy of a big Olive Tree, pale orange, coppery 'Comtesse du Cayla' flowers between blue-glaucous Dianellas 'Utopia' and 'Cassa Blue' , while peachy 'Abraham Darby'and 'Evelyn', 'Jude the Obscure', the brilliant yellow 'Golden Celebration' and 'Happy Child' are surrounded by glaucous Euphorbias tinged purple at their growing tips, like E. cyparissias 'Clarice Howard' and E. x martinii, and yellow Tanacethum parthenium 'Golden Moss'. Purple-bronze tones are emphasized in spring by the new foliage of the roses and tall Nectaroscordum siculum bulgaricum flowering among them... I think pictures would explain better than words ;o) You can find many many pictures of my garden in this Forum, http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg0209305130534.html http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg060531384580.html http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg0405083116585.html MANY new pictures (2008)of the garden are in my italian garden Forum, Spring... http://www.compagniadelgiardinaggio.it/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10804&start=0 and Summer http://www.compagniadelgiardinaggio.it/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13479&start=0 Ciao! Maurizio
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erasmus_gw
last year
Oh, you have a nice collection of clems. I bought Florida seiboldii last year but the box it came in overheated on the porch and it died. Really wanted Vienneta, which has Florida S in it. I think Vienneta has bigger centers maybe. Very striking. It is not for sale in the US as far as I know. Comes out of patent I think in a week or two. I have a wild passiflora that is invasive. Amazing flowers.
PDXRobertZ8
last year
@erasmus_gw that's precisely my issue with passiflora...they are very weedy in my experience. Amazing flowers though.
librarian_gardner_8b_pnw
last year
I miss growing passiflora rrfor the fruit. Passion fruit was one of my favorites when I lived in the tropics. The eating ones need a much hotter climate than I can provide where I live now
rosecanadian
last year
Erasmus - well said...a celebration of life. :)

Jackie - I hope you don't feel guilty over coming out of that deluge unscathed. It's great that your roses/flower will be there to help insects/birds and to lift people's spirits. :) :)
summercloud -- NC zone 7b
last year
I think this is my favorite thread ever! I love seeing up-close pictures of roses but I love seeing wide garden views EVEN MORE. All of your gardens are so, so inspiring. Thank you to everyone who has posted!
jacqueline9CA
last year
PDXRobertZ8 - l started purchasing them about 25 years ago, and then they started seeding babies all over, so I have not actually bought any for years, and we have dozens of them in 3 different areas. Before I bought any, I remember seeing a large one in bloom in a neighbor's yard, and asked what it was. They are so carefree, and so reliable, and bloom in mid wiinter - what is not to like?

Jackie
jacqueline9CA
last year
I meant to add this photo to the above - Jackie
Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
last year
Jackie, you must be breathing a huge sigh of relief. So happy for you.

About clematis, I went a little crazy this year and purchased 6. They are all in pots right now and they look like a brunch of dead sticks and leaves . They are all a prunning type 2. Should I just leave them alone. 4 will go in the ground when the ground warms.
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
last year
@jacqueline9CA That pink hellebore is gorgeous. I only have one and it has never reseeded, maybe it's sterile? Idk. I bought a darker color because I thought it would be unique and cool but unfortunately it doesn't show up very well against the drab early spring background and darker foliage of the plant. I want to replace it with a better color but it's healthy so I'm feeling too guilty to dig it out.
librarian_gardner_8b_pnw
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I see what you mean, Magpie. I think your dark one is still beautiful.
oursteelers 8B PNW
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Kristine, I would still prune. In my opinion it encourages more stems. Others may disagree but I give my clems three years to shine. For me they are very much sleep, creep, leap perennials.
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
last year
@Kristine LeGault 8a pnw 6 new Clems! Which ones?? Honestly, I'm having terrible luck with mine. The bulk ones I bought from Sam's club, I think I got 4 for $12, did well for me, and all the very expensive ones I bought from the clematis specialty nursery (more like 4 for $100) have died! I truly don't know how that happened. I wouldn't mind continuing to buy from Sam's Club but the selection is so limited compared to a clem nursery. I want to keep trying but they're more expensive than roses for me so I'm not sure if I will. For my cheapie ones, this spring will start their 3rd year so I sure hope they leap!
PDXRobertZ8
last year
@jacqueline9CA ignore my last comment (now deleted)--I thought we were talking about passiflora for some reason! Got my wires crossed. Now, if my hellebores reseeded and multiplied, I would be thrilled! :)
Rosa Zone 7a
last year
A bit late to this thread. Some garden pictures ..not just roses. White garden, woodland garden, rose r or (Eden and Zephy) and Japanese-inspired garden.
PDXRobertZ8
last year
Absolutely breathtaking @Rosa Zone 7a
Rosa Zone 7a
last year
Thank you Robert. We started from scratch five years ago from a bamboo, poison ivy scrub infested lot. I’m retired now and can spend all my hours gardening:)
sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
last year
Rosa, your yard is so beautiful. It looks like a park! I really love the blue arch and the water falls/stream How long is your watercourse?
erasmus_gw
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That's so beautiful, Rosa . I am sure it was a tremendous amount of work to get rid of the poison ivy and bamboo. To take a yard full of scrub and turn it into something so beautiful is quite an accomplishment. I love paving stones with stuff growing between them, and the white balls, and the Japanese inspired garden ...all of it. Did you make the white balls?
Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
last year
I am gobsmacked Rosa! What a peaceful retreat you have created from scrub and poison ivy.

Your relaxing color palette is so soothing to the eye and your water feature just adds to the overall feeling of serenity.

You guys have worked ( and continue to work) so hard to create something really special.

Well done!

Oh and the blue arbor, Wow!
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
last year
All of these photos are so gorgeous. I keep coming back to look at them. I miss the garden so much, we got a foot of snow the other day (and the last snow hadn't melted all the way yet so it's really piled high). I had a big vase of dried flowers from summer that I planned to keep out all winter to remind me of summer, but then my son tackled it during playtime and most of the flower heads broke off the stems. I piled them all into the bowl that I sometimes float rose blooms in. I think it's pretty. But I'm still missing the garden.
PDXRobertZ8
last year
Love that @Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b) and I am also amazed that straw flowers keep their saturated color like that!
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
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@PDXRobertZ8 This year was my first year growing them and I was surprised too! I'm not sure how many years they can keep their color for, but they dried flawlessly. The plant itself was not very attractive I'm the garden, though (in my opinion). But still, I'm glad I grew them for this. I might grow them again to make some gifts for people with the dried blooms.
PDXRobertZ8
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@Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b) the local nursery here was selling these small (8") wreaths with strawflowers glued to them, and they were actually beautiful. It'd be a great gift. I know the plant itself looks like a weed tho--haha!
Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
last year
Magpie, I got all but 1 of my clematis from Donahues.

Bernadine

Diamantina

Diana's Delight

Paulie

Samaritan Jo

Pink Champagne

They are all in pots and look like dead sticks. I hope that they are ok. They are all prunning 2
rosecanadian
last year
Rosa - beyond beautiful!! :) :) My favorite is your 2nd picture. :) Your rose climbers are incredible...so many blooms!! No way!!! You started that when it was just scrub? You are incredible!!! I really am impressed with people who can do that. It's not in my wheelhouse. WOWZA!!

Magpie - that is probably even prettier than in a vase! It looks so colorful, happy and fun!

Kristine - good luck with your clems...I hope they do well. I can't seem to grow them...I've given up. LOL
summercloud -- NC zone 7b
last year
@PDXRobertZ8 @Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b) I can explain a bit about hellebores and them seeding babies! Some fancy hellebores cultivars that you buy are sterile and should say so somewhere on the tag. This is nice for the company, since you're dependent on them to get more, and nice for gardeners who want the exact number of hellebores they planted.

Other hellebores are NOT sterile and seed about freely, but it takes a few years for the babies to mature and bloom. Baby hellebores are tiny the first year or two! You can get hellebore "strains" that have been bred for certain colors and such from places like Pine Knot Farm. (https://www.pineknotfarms.com/) These will make babies; if they aren't cross-pollinated the babies have a good chance of looking similar.

Watch out though! If you give them enough time and space hellebores WILL take over whole swathes of the garden! Luckily the small babies are super easy to dig out and give away/compost.

I had an invasive plant instructor at the local botanical garden try to convince us that hellebores are invasive since he's been finding them in the woods quite a distance from his garden. I guess the seeds have little delicious bits called "elaiosomes" and ants transport them quite far.
librarian_gardner_8b_pnw
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Thanks for explaining Summer cloud. II think. my hellebores may sterile.

The other plant that so many grow that's very invasive here is foxglove. You can find it all over here. I haven't seen. hellebores out in the wild now e I'll be keeping n my eyes open.
oursteelers 8B PNW
last year
I love foxgloves….except I’m always trying to only have the pure whites and the peaches and the sneaky plants always make pink babies!
titian1 10b Sydney
last year
Rosa, I am astonished that you have managed to create that in only 5 years. It is beautiful. I love your watercourse. Is it a stream you have tamed, or is it reticulating? Your pathway is so pretty. What groundcover have you used between the stepping stones? And how large is your lot? It seems enormous.

Magpie, I tried drying a bunch of strawflowers that I was given. They didn't retain their colour. How did you dry yours? I think your hellebore is stunning. Maybe if you plant a few pale ones around it it'll show up better.
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
last year
@titian1 10b Sydney I just hung them upside down out of direct sunlight for a few weeks. Yes I may buy some other hellebores to set it off better, I'm not sure yet. My shade garden definitely needs work but I'm not totally sure how to design it yet.
titian1 10b Sydney
last year
Magpie, that's what I did with mine. I mustn't have the touch!
Mischievous Magpie (CO 5b)
last year
@titian1 10b Sydney How were they given to you? I had hung mine immediately after cutting, and they were growing in a dry spot as is, but I wonder if having them in a vase of water first would affect how they dried? I don't possess an ounce of magic touch lol, I have had countless garden failures and I'm incapable of accomplishing neat planting schemes. My garden victories are largely due to probability, if you sow 100 packets of seeds a few of them are bound to grow 😅
titian1 10b Sydney
last year
I did put them in water, and kept them in it for 2 or 3 weeks. That's probably the answer!
Yvonne T
last year
@sultry-jasmine nights: it’s about 16 feet. haven’t figured out to respond directly so hope you see this.
Yvonne T
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@erasmus: I got the white balls from FB marketplace. They’re very light (not stone).
Yvonne T
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@Kristine: Thank you!
Yvonne T
last year
Titian1 Sydney 10b: it’s a recirculating waterway. The groundcover between the pavers is mazus reptans. It’s a bit of a thug but I had a lot of space to cover quickly. It has pretty purple flowers in the spring. There’s also a white form (mazus reptans Alba). I’m on 1.72 acres but part of that can’t be gardened on as it’s a septic field. I find that dividing up the lot into different garden rooms makes the whole garden feel bigger.
DDinSB (Z10b Coastal CA)
last year
Wow. I'm gobsmacked. Rosa, it must be nice to live in a place where rain falls from the sky!!!! :-) I think if I had a garden that lush the drought police would give me a ticket! Oh that's just lovely.

Jerijen -- your note makes me so wistful...

All the photos are beautiful. Thank you!
Kimberly Wendt (Florida Z. 10b)
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Rosa Zone 7a, Those are the most amazing pictures. Like royalty/public gardens quality. I'm dreaming, I think. I really like how you transitioned from rock path to grass. Would you be willing to post other pics of your rose garden? I'm totally gleaning ideas....
Yvonne T
last year
Kimberley: will try. i have a formal parterre rose garden but i have roses in perennial beds as well. Here’s an earlier 2021 pic of the parterre.
Yvonne T
last year
Kimberley: are you on IG? i post pictures there as @rosemama20.
Kimberly Wendt (Florida Z. 10b)
last year
Hi back, Yvonne... I used to be on IG a long time ago. I'll try to resurrect myself tomorrow and look for you. (Although I have a lot of digging to do tomorrow.... so maybe in a couple days lol).
rosecanadian
last year
Yvonne - ye gods!! You have incredible gifts with garden planning and growing roses!!! Unbelievably gorgeous!
Kimberly Wendt (Florida Z. 10b)
last year
Right... what @rosecanadian said just above!
Rosylady (PNW zone 8)
last year
Yvonne....I started following you in Instagram...I'm @mrs.rosylady. Your garden is absolutely beautiful!!
Yvonne T
last year
Rosy lady: thanks so much. I already follow you on Instagram and love your garden!
PDXRobertZ8
last year
@Rosylady (PNW zone 8) I didn't know you were on IG, but I follow you now. :) Gorgeous garden!
Rosylady (PNW zone 8)
last year
Thank you Yvonne and Robert!

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