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13 foot wide kitchen layout feedback

sarahsaccount24

last year

Hi! I posted recently on whole house feedback for my parents' house and appreciated the thoughts. They've narrowed the scope to doing the kitchen (and updating the powder bath) and want to keep it in the same place it is now. The current setup is below. Right now, there are two very tight pinch points around the island. The dishwasher is between the range and sink and leaves no room to prep (prep occurs on the island). The entire counter to the right of the fridge is used only to collect clutter. The peninsula is 30" high and primarily used to dry dishes (i.e. functions that could likely go elsewhere).

They are two people, one cook + one prep helper. They cook every meal at home. The house is on a slab. These are two ideas I had, the second to try to use the awkward space at the bottom (although the island needs to be moved down further so the fridge isn't a pinch point).

Would love to hear any additional thoughts!

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sheloveslayouts
last year
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Hi, Sarah. I'm glad you're back. This plan extends the kitchen into the dining area and opens up the wall between the kitchen and the light green area (i assume is a family room type space). This layout with refrigerator - dishwasher - sink - prep space - range in a continuous L with an island is super functional. Ideal, IMO. Note: I planned for pantry storage under the stairs and moved the dining room back to the area next to the living room.

And open the staircase on both sides like this so there's more relation between the two spaces.....
sheloveslayouts
last year
I see a full bath on the plan. Where is the powder bath?
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sarahsaccount24
Original Author
last year
Thank you so much!!

I misspoke / they had been considering making that a powder!

Interestingly where you have the new dining is where the current formal dining is. I had initially thought of something like this (although not as functional!) but they want to preserve the back area for casual dining. That might be impossible but - do you see any possibilities within the current footprint?
sheloveslayouts
last year
With an eye on aging in place, your parents should NOT reduce a full bath to a powder.

If they want to keep table seating in the kitchen... I wouldn't mess with the "L" I drew, but you could shorten the island by 36" with no over hang on the end. Place a small table for two against the back window wall or but it up against the end of the island.

I dont have a good example photo, let me know if that doesnt make sense.
sarahsaccount24
Original Author
last year
Yes, I see what you are saying! Thank you.

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